2017 Toyota 86 - new name, styling, and more power

[chaoskaze]

Originally Posted by thill

I like some of the changes, like the wheels and revised interior. Not feeling the front of the car at all and the power bump is a joke (especially since there is most likely a weight increase). I think Toyota continues to miss the mark by limiting the power. And no, I don't think the car needs 300hp, but this car is screaming for turbo that at least makes numbers close to a GTI (210hp/258ft lbs tq). Also give the car Pilot Super Sports as the OEM tire...

No, I have pilot super sport now, i dislike them quite a bit on this car.

They kill the funs in the city & makes the car a lot more comfy.... No & No to me. Stock tire is very well suited to the car the car behaves...Not to mention you learn how this car behaves on limit with those stocky super easy & safe too.


Back to topic, hopefully Subaru don't fuk it up as much..... But I think they might move the DRL somewhere else?

[go_a_way1]

BRZ sales are going to skyrocket with this "refresh"

[cyde01]

wow doesn't look half as bad as i was expecting! still like the original better. it looks like they were right about the power increase too, wow i guess they proved me wrong lol

[chaoskaze]

Originally Posted by smg1138

I wonder if the torque dip is gone? It would also be nice if the paint quality improved.

I think with the new gear ratio & intake design. Torque dip should be very minimal.

Originally Posted by OUGrad05

I feel like Toyota needs it for their image. So I expect them to do one more generation. But maybe not, the driving dynamics of the IS/GS products from lexus have radically improved, the RC-F will help and if they keep up the momentum they'll turn the toyota ship too. I just think its early to throw in the towel on the 2dr rwd affordable market.

IF that's the case they might even throw in next gen of the Mark X over sea, since that car is basically a camry/GS hybrid.

[MJones_RB]

Not as offensive as the 370z's underbite...

[OUGrad05]

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

I think with the new gear ratio & intake design. Torque dip should be very minimal.



IF that's the case they might even throw in next gen of the Mark X over sea, since that car is basically a camry/GS hybrid.

I think 2nd gen is coming and will have two engine options. A 220ish hp NA and a 275ish hp turbo. That's my hunch. It'll be around for 4-6 years and then probably fade into the sunset.

[Side]

I kind of want to swap those 2017 Toyota tail lights onto my 2016 Subaru.

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by MJones_RB

Not as offensive as the 370z's underbite...

I think the 370z looks worlds better than this lol especially since you can just black out the bottom part like many people do and the fangs go away. At least for the most part ha ha

[stevesnj]

Originally Posted by MisterSheep

In all honesty... This isn't a bad picture of the front end and actually looks very aggressive.

Thats why I did it also, a different perspective is always good.

[OnkelC]

I'll keep my OG 86, pre-facelift, thank you.

[[YOYO]]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I have no idea how many will get that reference but it is so spot on it made me spit hamburger all over my desk.

Yes, I realized that the joke may be a bit on the obscure / high brow end of the spectrum, so thank you sir, I appreciate it very much. I do apologize for the hamburger bit though.

[Vracer111]

Originally Posted by CokeSlap

Oh god, what if the transmission changes are for better MPG..

Would be a differential change most likely...like, um, putting the Auto final drive ratio into the manual probably. I can see the reasoning now by Toyota: "because more power and we could have 0-60 with only one shift - lets go taller gear!..."

That would suck...hopefully it's a shorter final drive...4.556?!


Will say I'm not crazy about most of the refresh changes...but actually don't mind the tail lights and steering wheel, and am curious about the door panel changes which haven't been shown yet...

And seems like there was some motor changes for less internal parasitic friction/pumping loss.

So does the new suspension change mean its more like the '13-14 MY cars or between that and the '15-16 MY cars?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by [YOYO]

Yes, I realized that the joke may be a bit on the obscure / high brow end of the spectrum, so thank you sir, I appreciate it very much. I do apologize for the hamburger bit though.

Meh, it wiped up and was worth it. Luckily the HR Manager was out of her office or she would have had to come checkup on me (once again) since I was pretty loud. I was still chuckling half an hour later.

[airjonny]

Wonder if Subaru will just keep going with their design and just use the performance updates.