More confirmation from Toyota on next gen 86

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by Riftur

I do not consider any of the cars I mentioned as sports cars.

Thankfully no one actually cares what your definition is then, because the Miata is effectively the quintessential sports car, by industry definition.

[Riftur]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

Is a Miata a real sports car? When has hp been the defining factor of a sports car?

Well there are two factors that are important to every sports car. HP and being able to put that HP to the ground. Saying that HP is not important to a sports car really sounds ridiculous.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by Goingnowherefast

We do realize the base model Toyota Camry engine does this. The 2.5L makes more torque, over 200 HP, weighs less, revs higher and I'd bet costs less. I have literally no doubt in my mind they could have made that engine work, but Subaru had to do Subaru things.

How high does the 2.5L in the Camry rev?

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by Riftur

Well there are two factors that are important to every sports car. HP and being able to put that HP to the ground. Saying that HP is not important to a sports car really sounds ridiculous.

You are wrong, and the rest of the world knows it.

[Riftur]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

Thankfully no one actually cares what your definition is then, because the Miata is effectively the quintessential sports car, by industry definition.

I know in other countries they see the Miata as a great sports car. In the US, not so much.

[Riftur]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

You are wrong, and the rest of the world knows it.

Wow, you should really tell that to Porche, Ferrari, Aston Martin etc etc. They have no idea how to make a sports car then. Or maybe you do not think they are sports cars?

[Tokay444]

No mention of power at all.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sports%20car

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by Riftur

Wow, you should really tell that to Porche, Ferrari, Aston Martin etc etc. They have no idea how to make a sports car then. Or maybe you do not think they are sports cars?

You're an idiot.

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by Riftur

Wow, you should really tell that to Porche, Ferrari, Aston Martin etc etc. They have no idea how to make a sports car then. Or maybe you do not think they are sports cars?

Stop posting at start reading.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_car

[Riftur]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

You are wrong, and the rest of the world knows it.

I realize you love the 86/BRZ the way it is, that the car was not designed for HP and was made to handle really well. But, you can not seriously believe what your saying about HP and sports cars.

[Tokay444]

I haven't even once mentioned the FRZ

[BigHugeFatGuy]

Originally Posted by Riftur

Well there are two factors that are important to every sports car. HP and being able to put that HP to the ground.

No, that's a muscle car.
Sports car cares #1 about handling/cornering. It's about spirited driving, enjoying a twisty road even at legal speeds. Look at the very first sports cars and their low output, and even the MR2 with 138 hp, or a 143 hp Lotus Elise. Old MGs, Triumphs, Opel GT, those aren't sports cars? By your definition, the 86 isn't a sports car.
I think you're bored and trolling.

[Riftur]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

Stop posting at start reading.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_car

Umm, do you even understand what it says in the wiki page you posted? I do not think you do. No one said that because the car has low HP that it's not a sports car. It basically states exactly what I said.

[Goingnowherefast]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

How high does the 2.5L in the Camry rev?

I stand corrected. 7,200 rpm in some applications so it is less.

Also worth it to mention it makes the rated 206 HP in the Camry XSE on 87 octane gasoline.

Originally Posted by Tokay444

I haven't even once mention the FRZ

You realize you can multi-quote posts right? Stop cluttering the forums with a 1 sentence post for each reply.