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Old 04-23-2018, 11:44 AM   #155
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5. Contribute related information that is actually on topic but not what the others want to hear.
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7. The poster is just ignorant.


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Old 04-23-2018, 12:14 PM   #156
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Interesting, this is the info I was after. Adding a supercharger on top of the engine must add a reasonable amount of weight to the front. And also up reasonably high.

Delayed throttle response I thought would be with a turbo but not a well sized positive displacement supercharger.
This is a reason I never went to the supercharger solution. Yes, it might feel a bit heavier especially with a positive displacement supercharger. Just keep in mind that the gains in the NA route are much less and you have to combine them with weight reduction for a better result. The latter is not always the best option if the car is a daily driver.
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Old 04-23-2018, 12:24 PM   #157
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i tried a supercharged hks v2 brz. you do t notice that is heavier since you have SO MUCH more torque in all range
it actually "feels" (you like that word, dont you) lighter and not out of balance at all
It amazes me you even thought about supercharging your car, when you even bought a 1500usd oem header because you are scared of inspection
the shiny fuel-hungry emission-moster compressor didn t shut off your idea like instantly?
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I was talking about weight balance and more weight in front. Not total weight!


And who said I thought about a supercharger? I test drove one accidentally, because I went once to a shop for another work and the owner was trying to sell me one. I never considered it as an option for me, but overall a positive displacement supercharger is a good option for a daily driver without too many compromises. If any of you still have issues with my decisions you can send me a pm. Let't not continue in this topic with all this bs.
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Why would more power would ruin the car??

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let's all add even more weight to the bottom of the car, since that apparently is what makes it handle better. The marketing department can call it 'road hugging weight', and then everyone can boast about how it's what makes the car handle so well


This is pretty much exactly how the original 350Z brochure read in 2002. 'sorry it's heavy guys, but it hugs the road better this way'. 🤣


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This is pretty much exactly how the original 350Z brochure read in 2002. 'sorry it's heavy guys, but it hugs the road better this way'. ��


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Yeah, they said the same thing in the 60s too, in Thunderbird ads. That's the power of marketing on the uninformed.

EDIT: haha - here's an even more recent ad for an even bigger turd: the Pinto. Better than the Chevette because of 'road-hugging weight'.

http://file.vintageadbrowser.com/l-l0kbd7egskbmzz.jpg
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can you show me a car with a boxer motor with a lower cog than a miata or corvette? you can talk about rooflines or whatever all you want but when i talk about center of gravity, i usually just look at the cars center of gravity.
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https://s3.amazonaws.com/amv-prod-ca...tion-specs.pdf

Apparently the 911 GT3.

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...11-gt3-feature
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You think there is an inherent image of low center of gravity with Subaru. I had the impression it was the opposite. What is the center of gravity for some of their other cars?
19.5" for the 2015 WRX.

Car and driver is great for making sharing their COG measurements!

https://s3.amazonaws.com/amv-prod-ca...rx-sept-14.pdf

https://www.caranddriver.com/compari...aru-wrx-page-2

They use math.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/ex...gravity-height

For comparison, here's the Honda Civic Turbo, COG: 21" - PDF.

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...urbo-sedan.pdf
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My carbon fiber overlays and helium filled tires offset my weighted shift knob, so my net gain is nil, but my wing adds 2,500 lbs. of downforce at anything over 100MPH. Power? who needs more power?
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My carbon fiber overlays and helium filled tires offset my weighted shift knob, so my net gain is nil, but my wing adds 2,500 lbs. of downforce at anything over 100MPH. Power? who needs more power?
But your wing puts all the weight in the rear which is OK since that just provides more traction.
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Did some quick calcs:

Assuming original stock c.g. is 18.12" from ground (stock height)

Added Edelbrock supercharger at stock height (estimated added weight 62 lbs at 24"): c.g. = 18.24"

Lowered car 1.25" on Tein Flex Zs with supercharger: c.g. = 16.98".

More power + lower c.g. = happy
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But your wing puts all the weight in the rear which is OK since that just provides more traction.

Therefore wheelies!
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