Drifting on Pilot Super Sports? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

scubastove · 04-27-2017, 08:36 PM

Hi all, I'm considering throwing on a set of PSS. Question though..
I'm a modest driver but every now and then like to get the tail end loose. Will I still be able to oversteer/drift with PSS? Or is the grip too much for the engine to break the wheels loose? Stock wheels FWIW, I'll be getting 225/45ZR17. Thanks!

TylerLieberman · 04-27-2017, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scubastove

Hi all, I'm considering throwing on a set of PSS. Question though..
I'm a modest driver but every now and then like to get the tail end loose. Will I still be able to oversteer/drift with PSS? Or is the grip too much for the engine to break the wheels loose? Stock wheels FWIW, I'll be getting 225/45ZR17. Thanks!

You can still provoke the car to rotate. MPSS aren't really all that sticky of a tire. They're a great DD tire, but they aren't like RE71s or RS3s or anything like that.

I was still able to get my car to rotate and break loose with a little bit of provoking when I was running 18x9.5s on 265 width tires. It might not be as progressive, and the speeds necessary to do it may not be as low compared to the stock rubber band tires, but it's still easily doable.

scubastove · 04-27-2017, 10:37 PM

Interesting. Yeah, I can't see why a quick clutch kick won't break the tail loose. Thanks!

Stang70Fastback · 04-27-2017, 10:53 PM

Here's my car on 255-section MPSS still breaking them loose without too much effort... (stock power)

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TxCZ6Un104"]255 Section Michelin PSS: Yes Burnouts Are Still Possible - YouTube[/ame]

Impureclient · 04-28-2017, 01:33 AM

I went through mine in less than 8k miles and although I get sideways a little bit here and there, I don't track the car. I just bought some Firestone Firehawk Indy 500s in the same 225/45 that are getting installed on Monday.
I would look at all the reviews on them and see if you want to spend about $200 less for what appears to be a very comparable tire to the MPSS. And like everybody else said, it is easy to break the tire loose
when they were new and now that they are at the end of their life, they are sliding around at the least bit of provocation.

JDM4E · 04-28-2017, 03:16 AM

Check this out, they did exactly what you want to do, from stock to 225/45 MPSS

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqhHPssCXMA"]Tracking & Drifting - Long Term Scion FR-S - Everyday Driver - YouTube[/ame]

8RZ · 04-28-2017, 09:15 AM

Yes, I'm running 255 PSS in the rear and have no trouble getting the back end out, doesn't even need a clutch-kick.

JazzleSAURUS · 04-28-2017, 09:23 AM

So I think that the PSS is a really good tire, it communicates super well, it has a lot of grip without being super sticky and too much for what you're trying to do.

I run Bridgestone S-04's in 225/45-17, and I consider them to be very close to the PSS in dynamics, grippiness, etc. I always refer to them as the poor mans PSS, especially since every spring they have a $70 rebate.

I have no issues getting the rear end out with momentum, a clutch kick, or a bit of a launch and a snap of the wheel.

You'll like the PSS, but keep in mind if you're putting the tail out all the time, they won't last all that long. The S-04 is a bit cheaper so it's more palatable to run through them.

radroach · 04-28-2017, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JDM4E

Check this out, they did exactly what you want to do, from stock to 225/45 MPSS

they said they were on the all seasons

JDM4E · 04-28-2017, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by radroach

they said they were on the all seasons

there is a close up in that video @ 11.57 that clearly says Michelin Pilot Super Sport

mav1178 · 04-28-2017, 02:57 PM

Yes, but there are cheaper tires to drift on.

04-27-2017, 08:36 PM	#1
scubastove Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Drives: Subaru BRZ Series.Blue Location: New Jersey Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Drifting on Pilot Super Sports? Hi all, I'm considering throwing on a set of PSS. Question though.. I'm a modest driver but every now and then like to get the tail end loose. Will I still be able to oversteer/drift with PSS? Or is the grip too much for the engine to break the wheels loose? Stock wheels FWIW, I'll be getting 225/45ZR17. Thanks!

04-27-2017, 10:53 PM	#4
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04-28-2017, 09:23 AM	#8
JazzleSAURUS Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Drives: 15 BRZ LTD, 05 FXT Location: Western MA Posts: 1,032 Thanks: 561 Thanked 558 Times in 351 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So I think that the PSS is a really good tire, it communicates super well, it has a lot of grip without being super sticky and too much for what you're trying to do. I run Bridgestone S-04's in 225/45-17, and I consider them to be very close to the PSS in dynamics, grippiness, etc. I always refer to them as the poor mans PSS, especially since every spring they have a $70 rebate. I have no issues getting the rear end out with momentum, a clutch kick, or a bit of a launch and a snap of the wheel. You'll like the PSS, but keep in mind if you're putting the tail out all the time, they won't last all that long. The S-04 is a bit cheaper so it's more palatable to run through them. __________________ SOLD: 2015 WRB BRZ Limited ('02 WRX BBS, S-04's, Stoptech Sport pads, MXP SP, AVO drop in filter, Mishimoto Intake tube, decatted header, OFT 93 Stage 2 EL Tune, Kartboy rear shifter bushing, Whiteline transmission and subframe lockout bushings, ST Coilovers, SPC Camber bolts w/smaller crash bolt, SPC LCA's & SPC Toe Arm bushings, Red TOMs, TRD Wing.)

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04-27-2017, 10:37 PM	#3
scubastove Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Drives: Subaru BRZ Series.Blue Location: New Jersey Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Interesting. Yeah, I can't see why a quick clutch kick won't break the tail loose. Thanks!

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Impureclient Banned Join Date: May 2015 Drives: 2015 FR-S Location: NPR, Florida Posts: 2,404 Thanks: 1,802 Thanked 2,903 Times in 1,282 Posts Mentioned: 25 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I went through mine in less than 8k miles and although I get sideways a little bit here and there, I don't track the car. I just bought some Firestone Firehawk Indy 500s in the same 225/45 that are getting installed on Monday. I would look at all the reviews on them and see if you want to spend about $200 less for what appears to be a very comparable tire to the MPSS. And like everybody else said, it is easy to break the tire loose when they were new and now that they are at the end of their life, they are sliding around at the least bit of provocation.

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JDM4E Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: Honda Accord Euro Location: Europe Posts: 204 Thanks: 251 Thanked 54 Times in 38 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Check this out, they did exactly what you want to do, from stock to 225/45 MPSS [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqhHPssCXMA"]Tracking & Drifting - Long Term Scion FR-S - Everyday Driver - YouTube[/ame]

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mav1178 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry Location: 91745 Posts: 6,562 Thanks: 493 Thanked 6,093 Times in 3,029 Posts Mentioned: 95 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Yes, but there are cheaper tires to drift on.

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