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Old 12-06-2016, 12:16 AM   #29
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Is there a difference between the price of an N/A build and a turbo build?
Easily 2-3x the price for equivalent or half the horsepower, from my experience anyway.
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LOL. There's no reason to build an NA engine unless there are specific rules about it in your class. Otherwise, an engine built for a turbo will perform way better with a turbo on.
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LOL. There's no reason to build an NA engine unless there are specific rules about it in your class. Otherwise, an engine built for a turbo will perform way better with a turbo on.
Definitely, but there are people like me that prefer N/A over turbos. If cash was no object, I'd do a build like celek's and rev the piss out of it all day.
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Definitely, but there are people like me that prefer N/A over turbos. If cash was no object, I'd do a build like celek's and rev the piss out of it all day.
If money was no object and you wanted NA....

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Definitely, but there are people like me that prefer N/A over turbos. If cash was no object, I'd do a build like celek's and rev the piss out of it all day.
I really don't see a reason to prefer NA to turbo. Turbo has great torque across the rev band. What's not to love? Only reason to prefer NA is that it's harder to get into legal trouble.
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I really don't see a reason to prefer NA to turbo. Turbo has great torque across the rev band. What's not to love? Only reason to prefer NA is that it's harder to get into legal trouble.
For track/competion:

Throttle response, less heat issues to solve, less blown transmissions, less consumable costs, less worry, less wear on engine components.
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For track/competion:

Throttle response, less heat issues to solve, less blown transmissions, less consumable costs, less worry, less wear on engine components.
That's more an argument for less power. Also, you don't need to build an NA engine to get it to work well at the track. Some bolt ons and that's it.
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Easily 2-3x the price for equivalent or half the horsepower, from my experience anyway.
Technically its about 4 times And I have seen 4CYL insane build make upwards of 400 NA but not streetable

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LOL. There's no reason to build an NA engine unless there are specific rules about it in your class. Otherwise, an engine built for a turbo will perform way better with a turbo on.
Maybe that person wants to make a point that a real engineer can build an engine to make power vs booger welding a turbo on the car
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I really don't see a reason to prefer NA to turbo. Turbo has great torque across the rev band. What's not to love? Only reason to prefer NA is that it's harder to get into legal trouble.
Apparently you know nothing of engine building and TQ
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Maybe that person wants to make a point that a real engineer can build an engine to make power vs booger welding a turbo on the car
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Apparently you know nothing of engine building and TQ
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