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You're onto the right idea with the airfoil thing but your scale is off. The point at which the area under the car should be increased by curving the foil up closer to the underbody is near the front axle, or the line drawn between the contact patches. This allows time and space for the air to accelerate before expanding to create the decreased pressure zone. I'll find my link somewhere that illustrates this but I'm on my phone right now. Sent from a secret volcano base using trained sharks |
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Aha. That does make sense then. Or maybe some small, inverted vortex generators? Then we could paint them white and they'd look like teeth. LoL Sent from a secret volcano base using trained sharks |
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I think the vanes on the bottom are acting as vortex generators. My question is: if air is moving faster before it hits a vortex generator, does that make the vortex tighter or looser? And what effect does that have on the car?
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woohooo! I'll treat myself to a pat on the back if I can do it without breaking my arm. LoL
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Before my words get twisted too much, I can't believe we are arguing about this. It is his car, he knows my thoughts on them (and likely agrees), and I am sure he can make his own decision of whether or not it was/is beneficial to him and his car.
I was simply pointing out that in my opinion, APR's splitter does not produce much downforce. Carbon fiber or not, if it is attached *solely* to the bumper which is very flexible. If a splitter produces anything more than 25 pounds of downforce (FT86SpeedFactory's street front splitter produces 50lbs at 100mph), tie rods are necessary to keep the splitter parallel with the ground and need to attach directly to a metal support structure. |
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http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=38 as you can guess I was under the impression that the splitter should be fine since I am not even racing and I should be OK by adding my rods until I receive the upgrade kit..if you feel that the splitter is not OK to use without any support (that connects to the metal) Can I ask you why it was released without them? Thanks in advance
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Now I am completely lost buddy. No, the ties you added are not harmful in anyway.
I do not see where I said it is better to use without any support, nor do I remember stating that. If your car is used on the highway and light duty racing, splitter ties are not necessary. You can add whatever you want to your splitter. The necessity for splitter ties comes with high rates of speed (above 80mph). |
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and I completely agree with you on adding a tie rod that I can attach to the metal is the best method obviously so we tried that..my friend (who works in a body shop) simply couldn't attach to the bumper beam because of the angle of the rods so we figured we can attach to the bumper until you release yours, I will simply add the new rods when they're avaliable.. I think it all started when @civicdrivr said "Not according to Eric" after quoting my sentence Quote:
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He said some support rod installations might be as good as having nothing which is neither better than nothing nor necessarily harmful. That's how I read the conversation.
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