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Old 08-15-2019, 11:42 AM   #57
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Also Z51 package $5,000 and nose-lift system is $1,495

If I had mine configured it would be a 2LT with Z51 and nose lift for around 75k which isn't bad at all considering the performance and even luxury items you get.
That's about where I'm at. The nose lift is mandatory for me just getting in/out of my driveway.
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That's about where I'm at. The nose lift is mandatory for me just getting in/out of my driveway.
Let's just hope this configuration is the most popular than when the C8 Z06 is announced we'll have a lot of excellent used examples waiting to be picked up at a very good price
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Another details I missed on this comparison is the consumables... which I'm really not good at estimating but I would say the FT86 is excellent for your wallet in terms of keeping the consumables reasonable. I believe this is a factor of weight and power with the FT86 being low on both so you don't end up paying out a lot on tires/breaks/fluids

The C8 on the other hand is relatively heavy and very powerful so I'm not sure if the price scale is the same. Say the MSRP for the C8 is 2.5X that of the BRZ (75 vs. 30) than does this mean consumable when on track and whatnot are just going to be that or much higher, I don't know...
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Wait, how is this? you got my interest...

Is your BRZ heavily modified for this to happen? or the Corvette just really more fuel efficient in the real world?

I say this because in my own BRZ (2017 Limited PP) I easily get 34 MPG highway going 70 MPH when it is rated at 29.

I'm wondering if the Vette does way better in the real world than what is quoted?
As far as I remember, Corvettes have that fancy tech that allows it to cut the fuel supply to half of the cylinders, effectively making it a 4-cylinder car. With the right gearing, aero, etc., it can be more effective than a manual BRZ that does 3–4k rpms in 6th gear at highway speeds.
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:35 PM   #61
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I love the new C8.
I plan on getting a new one as a daily in a year or two, and letting my tS be a weekend car. I'm excited about the Corvette's transition to an MR supercar.
Sure it won't have prestige like other brands, but this may be what the Corvette needs to get owners who aren't wearing jorts and white New Balances.
I'm fine without the brand prestige, I just don't want a retiree's image at the age of 38.
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I understand the comparison is tongue in cheek, but reading the title of this thread still made my head hurt. Thanks for that.
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C8 looks sharp, have to recognize that, but I think is safe to wait 1 or 2 years to understand where GM made the "cut costs"...unless you think GM cut costs from C7 to C8 from their own profit?... Otherwise you can take the risk of the "new model issue" that could happen, like as all we knew from our fellow 2013's "engine recall" FR-S/BRZ owners, that this wasn't a "cut cost" issue, but was a "new model" issue...
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.... Otherwise you can take the risk of the "new model issue" that could happen, like as all we knew from our fellow 2013's "engine recall" FR-S/BRZ owners, that this wasn't a "cut cost" issue, but was a "new model" issue...
Actually I don't believe it was a "new model" issue (at least the recall itself wasn't). It was a parts bin issue as it affected multiple engines on the Subaru side.

Unless of course you mean the failed repairs, then yea I guess you could classify it as a new model issue, but had the faulty springs not shown up in the supply chain until 2017, it wouldn't really be that would it?
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I tend to believe the used cars might actually be as much if not close to the price of a new one in the next few years. I kind of believe the first couple years will be the "price" years where the price brings the buzz and customers. It will creep up quick though. Just my thought process.
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I tend to believe the used cars might actually be as much if not close to the price of a new one in the next few years. I kind of believe the first couple years will be the "price" years where the price brings the buzz and customers. It will creep up quick though. Just my thought process.
From a used perspective the C7 will be the real bargain I suspect.
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From a used perspective the C7 will be the real bargain I suspect.
In a couple years.... right now I'm not seeing deals, but there is a huge influx of people selling.
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As far as I remember, Corvettes have that fancy tech that allows it to cut the fuel supply to half of the cylinders, effectively making it a 4-cylinder car. With the right gearing, aero, etc., it can be more effective than a manual BRZ that does 3–4k rpms in 6th gear at highway speeds.
Holy crap that's pretty impressive if true. Imagine getting the same MPG as a family car with a fraction of the power and looks. And yeah the higher RPMs at cruising speeds gets pretty annoying.
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I understand the comparison is tongue in cheek, but reading the title of this thread still made my head hurt. Thanks for that.
the principles of life are off having fun

Besides I am considering one so I guess it counts in some ways.

I hold the FT86 in very high regards and the criteria (for me) is smiles/$$

They are directly comparable in that sense. I'm just torn on what's better driving a fast car slow or driving a slow car fast? also live well bellow your means and invest your time/money wisely? or live up your life while you're alive?

I read a lot of history here and there and it's amazing what 1st world problems we suffer these days compared to our ancestors
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C8 looks sharp, have to recognize that, but I think is safe to wait 1 or 2 years to understand where GM made the "cut costs"...unless you think GM cut costs from C7 to C8 from their own profit?... Otherwise you can take the risk of the "new model issue" that could happen, like as all we knew from our fellow 2013's "engine recall" FR-S/BRZ owners, that this wasn't a "cut cost" issue, but was a "new model" issue...
I'm not entirely sure if there was any dubious cost cutting with the C8?

I mean Corvette has always been an unbelievable bargain. The sudden shift to world beating competitiveness I believe happened back when the C6 Z06 was introduced in 2006. Back then people said it was way too good to be true and to this day it is true and it is good. The word was ablaze back then with the 500HP car that can compete head to head with the best sports cars out there and still affordable.

So I believe Corvette has a history of pulling such miraculous feet and the C8 is honestly nothing too surprising at this stage.
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