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Old 07-22-2019, 02:36 PM   #141
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I'm keeping a hopeful eye on these kits, but they are expensive and their biggest issue is no trumpets. It seems almost pointless if they don't have the trumpets haha
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Old 07-22-2019, 05:20 PM   #142
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And once we go above 7000, more than just an oil cooler is needed to ensure adequate lubrication on this mill.
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And once we go above 7000, more than just an oil cooler is needed to ensure adequate lubrication on this mill.
Why do you say that? Stock redline is 7400. I've been driving mine hard for more than five years and 100 track days. It seems to me like regular oil changes with good oil gets the job done as designed.
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CSG announced a partnership with Zach too...
Zach is a partner, as in equity partner, at CSG, not just "a partnership like a sponsorship"!

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People are hoping this will be the next big thing for na results. Nobody has been able to provide conclusive before/after na dyno numbers
The original CSG vehicle supplied to DT with my ITBs for NA development suffered an engine failure while on DT's dyno.

The ITBs have since been transplanted into another CSG vehicle for NA testing, before I take them back to put on my personal turbo car.

Testing is ongoing, not only for power, but also drivability.
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The original CSG vehicle supplied to DT with my ITBs for NA development suffered an engine failure while on DT's dyno.

The ITBs have since been transplanted into another CSG vehicle for NA testing, before I take them back to put on my personal turbo car.

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Mike, just so you know, I'm just a bystander here lol and would never question your experience or the time and money you guys have put into developing parts for this platform
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Why do you say that? Stock redline is 7400. I've been driving mine hard for more than five years and 100 track days. It seems to me like regular oil changes with good oil gets the job done as designed.
They haven't realized there are tons of people that have changed their cars redline to 8k. I think I read on here that people have used 8200 or 8300 safely as a redline. Above that is where it gets iffy.
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Why do you say that? Stock redline is 7400. I've been driving mine hard for more than five years and 100 track days. It seems to me like regular oil changes with good oil gets the job done as designed.
Sustained 7000+ rpm has been the demise of more than a few of these do to oil starvation, on engines that have never been opened, so we can't blame sloppy sealant application.
I thought it was pretty common knowledge that that oil supply system really isn't up to snuff on this car.
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Old 07-23-2019, 08:40 AM   #148
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Sustained 7000+ rpm has been the demise of more than a few of these do to oil starvation, on engines that have never been opened, so we can't blame sloppy sealant application.
I thought it was pretty common knowledge that that oil supply system really isn't up to snuff on this car.
Why in the world would anyone sustain more than 7,000 RPM on these? There is zero benefit to doing that. That is strictly abusive.
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Sustained 7000+ rpm has been the demise of more than a few of these do to oil starvation, on engines that have never been opened, so we can't blame sloppy sealant application.
I thought it was pretty common knowledge that that oil supply system really isn't up to snuff on this car.
Did anyone tell this to that guy from the main forum fighting the dealership about his blown engine?
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Why in the world would anyone sustain more than 7,000 RPM on these? There is zero benefit to doing that. That is strictly abusive.
Lots of AutoX cars will be bouncing off redline consistently at the top of 2nd gear.
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Lots of AutoX cars will be bouncing off redline consistently at the top of 2nd gear.
Bouncing off the red line consistently does not sound very fast to me.
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Bouncing off the red line consistently does not sound very fast to me.
There's a high likelihood it yields better times than upshifting and then downshifting again immediately.
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Why in the world would anyone sustain more than 7,000 RPM on these? There is zero benefit to doing that. That is strictly abusive.
ACS Roval usually ends up with redline in 5th for about 20-30 seconds WOT. If you're mostly bolt-ons there's barely enough power to keep the car going at that speed on the bank.

In 6th there's not enough power to the wheels.

Not really abusive if you want to get faster at the track, but you're right, it's abusive in the eyes of SOA.

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Why do you say that? Stock redline is 7400. I've been driving mine hard for more than five years and 100 track days. It seems to me like regular oil changes with good oil gets the job done as designed.
Same story here. I've done about 40 track days on mine. Nothing crazy with my setup, just an oil cooler and Castrol or Mobil1 synthetic 0w30 or 5w30. Plenty of trips to 7400 RPM, although granted I don't sit at redline and bounce off the limiter.

Engine is running great. Now that I said that though, it'll probably explode tomorrow.
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