Will this fit? (width, offset and tire size Qs)

[Aipex8]

Originally Posted by Leonardo

If you are asking about optimum driving and don't know very much about wheels and tires. Going staggered is not a good idea.


Get four of the same wheel and tire. You can rotate all your tires this way.


I'd suggest the 18x8.5 with a 225/40/18 tire.


Camber is caused by lowering your car. (or by installing parts that change camber) A few degrees of negative camber is good for front grip and won't cause uneven tire wear if your car is aligned properly.


Good Luck!

How is running a staggered setup in your experience? I've been thinking about wheels for my car and I kind of like the staggered look (last 13 years were in an RX-8 with square setup and I totally understand square from the factory being the ideal setup and the other pros and cons). I know a lot of people run staggered setups, but whenever I ask about it, people just shame me like I'm some kind of noob and say I'll ruin the car (I know that the amount of understeer created by running a slight stagger would probably only be noticeable on track and could probably be fixed with other suspension tuning like sways). My car is for spirited daily driving, with the occasional autocross for fun (not competitive). Just looking for real world experience.

[churchx]

I wouldn't be so sure on "lot of people run staggered". They might be simply more vocal, and generate impression that there are lot of them, while in reality imho more then 49/50 will run square tire/wheel choice and see no need to bring it up/mention/talk about it.

[Aipex8]

Originally Posted by churchx

I wouldn't be so sure on "lot of people run staggered". They might be simply more vocal, and generate impression that there are lot of them, while in reality imho more then 49/50 will run square tire/wheel choice and see no need to bring it up/mention/talk about it.

LOL, and you're one of the people that chime in immediately and say it will ruin the car. Search "18x8.5" in the wheel forum and tons of wheels posts are people running 8.5F/9.5R. I went to a car show yesterday and two of the four 86's there were staggered (although I was only there for a bit and didn't talk to the owners). I do know what your opinion is, I was wanting to hear Leonardo's actual experience. And you're really telling me that I shouldn't bring this up or talk about it?

[churchx]

All i commented, that "lot of people" might be a bit misleading, so would appreciate to not put words in my mouth i haven't wrote. While i indeed do believe that paying own money to make something worse is wrong and advise against doing, if asked for advises, from where comes what i supposedly am "really telling you" stuff?

I know, that it's always possible to search for specific niches of owners to get "statistics" of whichever outcome you wish, especially if ignoring existence of something opposing one's views. Searching for posts/threads, visiting specific car shows, having friends with specific beliefs. Confirmation bias.

[Aipex8]

Originally Posted by churchx

All i commented, that "lot of people" might be a bit misleading, so would appreciate to not put words in my mouth i haven't wrote. While i indeed do believe that paying own money to make something worse is wrong and advise against doing, if asked for advises, from where comes what i supposedly am "really telling you" stuff?

I know, that it's always possible to search for specific niches of owners to get "statistics" of whichever outcome you wish, especially if ignoring existence of something opposing one's views. Searching for posts/threads, visiting specific car shows, having friends with specific beliefs. Confirmation bias.

Sorry, what words did I put in your mouth? You did say it would ruin the car in the other thread that we had a back and forth, and the part about not talking about it or bringing it up, I was asking for clarification because I didn't understand why you said that. I couldn't tell if you were telling me not to bring it up.

From the other thread that we talked about this stuff, I asked if you'd ever driven a staggered setup and you said no. I'm not looking for confirmation bias (in fact in the other thread I stated that I'd most likely be going with a square setup), I just wanted to hear from someone running staggered.

In my experience, with the RX-8 being similar in that it is a low power, driver's car with square setup from the factory, there are far fewer staggered 8's on the rx8club forum. Also, when you run a square setup on the 8, the wheels fit similarly in the wheel wells. You don't either get 1" of poke in the front (if the rears are fitting nicely) or sunk rears (if the fronts fit nice). Lastly, TRD wheels are staggered, so the Toyota engineers know best argument doesn't necessarily hold water for me. And yes, I am concerned with looks, but I'm a designer (graphic/UI who almost went automotive design while in school) and esthetics are important to me.

If you're correct, if Leonardo says, "oh my god, my setup is shit and I'm going back to square as soon as these tires are done" then I'll go square for sure. I'm looking for evidence.

[Juzzotec]

Hi Guys, looking to buy a set of SSR GTV02's

18x8.5 +44 all round

Can someone please confirm these will clear stock suspension? fitment guide says it should.
Will this also be okay running TRD 1" drop springs?
Also what size tyres would you guys recommend? I'm trying to choose between 225/40/18, 235/40/18 or 245/35/18...

Thanks

[Leonardo]

Originally Posted by Aipex8

How is running a staggered setup in your experience? I've been thinking about wheels for my car and I kind of like the staggered look (last 13 years were in an RX-8 with square setup and I totally understand square from the factory being the ideal setup and the other pros and cons). I know a lot of people run staggered setups, but whenever I ask about it, people just shame me like I'm some kind of noob and say I'll ruin the car (I know that the amount of understeer created by running a slight stagger would probably only be noticeable on track and could probably be fixed with other suspension tuning like sways). My car is for spirited daily driving, with the occasional autocross for fun (not competitive). Just looking for real world experience.

The reason I have staggered wheels is: I did not have enough money to buy the coils I wanted at the time I purchased the wheels. IMO going staggered is just for looks. The car can handle a staggered setup, and in most cases, is totally fine for DD. I do not feel that it ruins the way the car drives. I also do not think it is a performance Upgrade. They are a compromise. Looks for lower MPG, not being able to rotate tires, and cost.

I have run a few different tire setups on my car. Square and staggered. I currently have a staggered setup. 18x8 +20 215/40/18 front and 18x9 +32 rear 245/35/18. the tires are Hankook evo v12 tires, which I do not like. They have plenty of grip; I do not understeer. But, I do not like the soft side wall; bouncy.


I had 225/40 front and 245/35 rear MPSS, which I loved. The stagger was small enough it was not noticeable while driving. I had 245/35/18 all around on staggered wheels This did not work very well. The 245 on the 8" wheel made the steering mushy/heavy and did not feel good on corners.

After trying a bunch of different size tire widths on different width wheels, I feel that: tire stretch is better than being too wide. 225 is a great width for the front. A bulging tire is ugly and does not function optimally. Tires that have the same side wall angle (either because they are the same size or because they are staggered on the appropriate corresponding size wheels for the same look) are visually pleasing to my eyes. And when they look different bother me.




I am getting a 17" square setup for my next set of wheels.

[Leonardo]

Originally Posted by Juzzotec

Hi Guys, looking to buy a set of SSR GTV02's

18x8.5 +44 all round

Can someone please confirm these will clear stock suspension? fitment guide says it should.
Will this also be okay running TRD 1" drop springs?
Also what size tyres would you guys recommend? I'm trying to choose between 225/40/18, 235/40/18 or 245/35/18...

Thanks

18x8.5 +44 all round will fit with stock suspension and lowered on TRD springs.

I recommend 225/40/18 tires. 235/40 is a bit tall, and provides no benefit IMO. 245/35 will cause some of the steering's preciseness to be lost.

[Juzzotec]

Originally Posted by Leonardo

18x8.5 +44 all round will fit with stock suspension and lowered on TRD springs.

I recommend 225/40/18 tires. 235/40 is a bit tall, and provides no benefit IMO. 245/35 will cause some of the steering's preciseness to be lost.

Thanks for the reply man, so either 225/40 or 235/40 but 225 is probably better - got it!

[AnotherSlowAE86]

Does anyone have opinions on the fitment of a 17x8 +32? Would the best tire size be a 225/45/17? I'm at stock height and plan to drop the car about 1" in the future.

[Leonardo]

Originally Posted by AnotherSlowAE86

Does anyone have opinions on the fitment of a 17x8 +32? Would the best tire size be a 225/45/17? I'm at stock height and plan to drop the car about 1" in the future.

17x8 +32 with a 225/45 will look flush and fit very nicely on stock suspension. The wheels will suck in a couple mm when you lower the car and still look great. I would not go any taller or wider of a tire on those wheels. 225/45 is perfect IMO for them. You WILL NOT rub.




Good luck!

[Seanzky]

Originally Posted by Leonardo

I would suggest 225/45/17 as the size to buy.


They absolutely will not rub. And IMO are exactly the right offset for you.


Though a little camber is a good thing up front, don't be scared of it. You can have a few degrees of negative camber without uneven tire wear. It adds grip when you need it most.


I have had 8" front wheels that were +45, +35, and +19 offset. +35 is a great offset.

Thanks again, @Leonardo.

I went with your suggestion and I love the right amount of meatiness to wheel diameter ratio. I think it's perfect.

https://imgur.com/gDWDras

[Leonardo]

Originally Posted by Seanzky

Thanks again, @Leonardo.

I went with your suggestion and I love the right amount of meatiness to wheel diameter ratio. I think it's perfect.

https://imgur.com/gDWDras

Thanks! Your car looks great!!

[Seba]

As some of you may already know my brz is now FI. I am going to change my wheels.
I like OZ Leggera HLT grigio corsa 18x8 with 225/40 tyres. Help me decide whether I shoud choose ET 35 or ET45.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61093