Handgun hiding spot in brz

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by Snowblind

Canada is irrelevant and we don't care about you or your country's opinion.

Now go make us some maple syrup and drink your milk from a bag.

You sure as fuck will care about our water and other numerous resources. Now go eat your Olestra fried potatoes and we see how that works out. I won't even mention our beloved beaver.

[SirBrass]

Originally Posted by RFB

I carried a S+W in a shoulder rig, as well as a Browning High Power, for a short time only, because it caused arthritis in my right shoulder !
I then stayed with belt.

Shoulder rigs can be dangerous as you sweep the inside of your arm on the draw. Under stress there is a possibility of ( you know ) .

Thats why I.D.P.A. and others don't allow shoulder rigs even in duty rig class.
Only once was I successful in getting one of my trainees accepted in a competition with a shoulder rig, but it was a vest holster ( Cdn. army issue ) and pulling the left arm slightly back and angling the body on the firing line prevented sweeping and breaking 90.

Crossdraw for driving is tactically sound as the goblin usually approaches from the drivers side and your muzzle is already pointed in the correct direction requiring minimum time and effort to engage.

And - everyone !

As for the anti's - just ignore them, as they have no expertise in firearms and factual peer reviewed stats.
They post uninformed opinions that are formed by media and government misinformation or their own emotional inadequacies.

They are a cow looking at a train - NO COMPREHENSION - incapable of understanding.
Trying to get a cow to understand a train is a waste of time.

A lion can heed an ape's theories on how to pick fruit from a tree, but not an ape's theories on how to bring down a gazelle.



CERBERUS

Thanks for guilting me back into IDPA. Problem is: I have no place to set up my Dillon Square Deal B for reloading my .45ACP .

Thus I haven't really competed (well, only at the club level... I b0rked the last qualifier I shot and shot novice when I should have shot marksman) in a while.

That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it .


As for muzzle direction in a car... I'd think any carjacking scumbucket would approach from the driver's side to make sure his victim couldn't just roll out the door and away from him and his line of sight... and also to drag said victim out.

And yeah, I do know how easy it is to lose track of your muzzle under stress. When I was at gunsite about... 8 years ago, when doing the presidential drill, I got TOO excited and the gun cleared the holster and got pointed straight out while I was still facing backwards turning to forwards and I swept (finger wasn't on the trigger, of course) my instructor.

Boy howdy was he NOT happy. Learned my lesson WELL.

[Kids Heart]

Originally Posted by wbradley

Sorry that I share the opinion of almost all of the developed world aside from the US. Guns aren't made for creating anything good. I'm my ideal society they don't proliferate. Good luck Billybob, you got the power to kill. Stay out of my country with that crap.Preach elsewhere.

Didn't Canada just recently get rid of their long gun registry because they found it was a huge waste of time and money?

[Boxer486]

Originally Posted by wbradley

Sorry that I share the opinion of almost all of the developed world aside from the US. Guns aren't made for creating anything good. I'm my ideal society they don't proliferate. Good luck Billybob, you got the power to kill. Stay out of my country with that crap.Preach elsewhere.

Most of the world once thought Hitler was Man of the Year too, so your opinion and theirs means squat to us. It's been historically wrong just as Vlad the Impaller is showing us once again. Most of the 'developed world' came from feudal societies managed by kings and lords where people were used to being ruled with little of their own personal freedoms. Therefore little is missed. Not to mention many of those countries only exists as they do today after losing multiple world wars where fascist and other regimes rose to power due to a disarmed population with strict gun controls that had no power or will to resist. They were also rescued by a country with gun rights twice, go figure...

http://lys-dor.com/2011/08/10/fascis...you-dont-know/

Your ideal society exists where there is little diversity of opinion or way of life, everyone is a hive minded zombie taught to think and act the same (ie. like you). Sure thing Jean Pierre, I'll stay out of your 'ideal society' (Canada) just like most of the rest of world chooses to. We already have Hockey and Maple syrup in the US, so thanks but no thanks. Plus we have lots of beautiful beaver down here already.

Btw, if you don't want to be preached to, don't be a preacher yourself otherwise you end up looking like a hypocrite.

[SirBrass]

Originally Posted by Kids Heart

Didn't Canada just recently get rid of their long gun registry because they found it was a huge waste of time and money?

I do believe they did. You forgot to mention they nixed it also b/c it wasn't effective (iirc that was something else that was used to justify it getting the axe).

On phone I am. Therefore, if mistakes I make, Frank Oz blame you should.

[RFB]

Originally Posted by Kids Heart

Didn't Canada just recently get rid of their long gun registry because they found it was a huge waste of time and money?

Yes they did. Another reason for dumping it was that epidemialogical studies showed it had NO effect on public safety and had some negative effects on crime rates.

Unfortunately the law brought in at the same time as the registry that makes every gun owner a criminal is still with us. (A firearms licence makes us exempt from criminal possession charge until it is expired or revoked - then mandatory prison 3 to 5 years for a paperwork crime).

A gun owner also has no right of residence security from government search.
If you own firearms no warrant is needed to search your residence under several sections of law.

The R.C.M.P. (federal police) has been using trickery to get the government to ban many rifles over the last several years and was recently caught by the safety minister. He was not happy about being lied to by the cops.

The current government has promised to un criminalize honest gun owners (as in the past before the hysterical laws) but it looks like they don't have the time before the next election and the socialist looneys again.



CERBERUS

[wbradley]

Chicago is a great city. But, they also had 36 shootings in 36 hours (yikes!). I guess there is a price to be paid for being a freedom loving 'Merican.

I just hate the idea of knowing everyone has a gun, a weapon that gives people the ability to play god on someone else's life. In the US there's something like 10 guns for every citizen. They also have by far the highest amount of gun related crimes per capita of anywhere in the developed world.

Now please tell me, if people could play back the timeline where events led to laws leading to gun proliferation, would they still want things to be where they are right now? What if you lose a loved one to a shooting? There is nothing, absolutely nothing that can justify the tragic loss of an innocent life. So many people finding excuses why its OK to be able to kill other people.

England has some of the lowest crime anywhere. The cops don't even carry guns in most places. So, if you can still enjoy your standard of living, exist in a democracy, own a car and a home, not have to fear for your life, why wouldn't you prefer to live in a society like England?

Civil engineers are specifically required to ensure they design structures that help maintain public safety. But society makes guns a popular item to own. Oh, and humans have been know to go crazy occasionally. Does that help public safety?

I'm finished.

[RFB]

Originally Posted by wbradley

Chicago is a great city. But, they also had 36 shootings in 36 hours (yikes!). I guess there is a price to be paid for being a freedom loving 'Merican.

I just hate the idea of knowing everyone has a gun, a weapon that gives people the ability to play god on someone else's life. In the US there's something like 10 guns for every citizen. They also have by far the highest amount of gun related crimes per capita of anywhere in the developed world.

Now please tell me, if people could play back the timeline where events led to laws leading to gun proliferation, would they still want things to be where they are right now? What if you lose a loved one to a shooting? There is nothing, absolutely nothing that can justify the tragic loss of an innocent life. So many people finding excuses why its OK to be able to kill other people.

England has some of the lowest crime anywhere. The cops don't even carry guns in most places. So, if you can still enjoy your standard of living, exist in a democracy, own a car and a home, not have to fear for your life, why wouldn't you prefer to live in a society like England?

Civil engineers are specifically required to ensure they design structures that help maintain public safety. But society makes guns a popular item to own. Oh, and humans have been know to go crazy occasionally. Does that help public safety?

I'm finished.

I certainly hope you are.

My fellow Canadian,

I don't believe you are an intentional liar,
I believe you are a media victim who is completely misinformed as to the situation in Chicago and England and are totally unaware of the true facts applying to those situations. You seem to be parroting traditional media garbage that has been discredited long ago.

Your information is totally FALSE and misleading, and I encourage all readers of this post to disregard the opinions therein regarding Chicago and England.

Peer reviewed accepted studies have linked the high gun crime with the strictest gun control laws in the country. Because no one is allowed pistols, all the goblins arm themselves and have free reign, knowing the victims are easy prey.
Gun killing stats are high in all urban areas - because of gang warfare - goblins shooting goblins, and police shooting goblins. It's not all innocents being gunned down !

In England when guns were outlawed, crime rate increased, including murder by firearm. England still has a very high crime rate.
And yes the Police DO carry guns in England. They are as well armed as U.S. cops. The "Bobby" on the street is not, but he is for tourism, not a real cop answering real calls.

To hide the fact that banning guns did nothing to stop gun murder the British Home Office changed statistic gathering methods on murder.
A murder statistic is not recorded unless the killer is convicted of murder.
Plea bargains, manslaughter, no conviction, etc. situations were not recorded as murder.

Anyways - there are a lot of bogus statistics out there - the trick is to separate the propoganda from the truth.

" There are lies, damn lies , then there's STATISTICS " - Samuel Clemens



CERBERUS

[TruRace]

I put mine in the pouch behind the passenger seat. With the seat up a couple notches it's easily accessible for the most part.

[Boxer486]

Originally Posted by wbradley

Chicago is a great city. But, they also had 36 shootings in 36 hours (yikes!). I guess there is a price to be paid for being a freedom loving 'Merican.

Lol, they have the strictest gun controls in the nation. All those shootings are in a city following your ideal model! Good example.

@RFB, to follow on the note about statistics, in Japan unsolved crimes are not recorded in statistics to allow the police to save 'face'. Thus they have an incredibly unnatural low reported crime rate. If people were to believe statistics the Us would pretty much be the worse at everything and easily surpassed by Cuba and N. Korea in pretty much every metric conceivable. The US also over reports everything (illiteracy, infant mortality, etc.) because that's how our agencies increase funding. The rest of the world under reports because that's how they keep their jobs and heads. I feel bad for you guys with the police taking advantage of recent laws. Legally supported warrantless searches against a targeted segment of the population is crazy. Just goes to show how fast that slippery slope creeps up on us.

I love the idea that the fathers of the US were redneck cowboys. Yeah really portrays Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Madison and some of the greatest Enlightenment thinkers in world history accurately doesn't it. It's so easy to demonize those you don't agree with using false imagery until you think things through to their logical conclusions.

[Snowblind]

Riding around like this is legal in my state, because I live in the greatest country on the planet. I like to bathe it in Liberal tears.

[Reaper]

Nice conversion.

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[billwot]

Originally Posted by DocCola

You, sir, are an idiot. I had an attempted car jacking happen to me 2 years ago in damn near broad daylight. When the would be thieves "boxed" in my car I made like I was going to get out and as I stood up I drew my gun from it's holster on my hip. The sight of the gun was enough to send those pussies running and saved my car as well as possibly my life.

I'm an American and I'm a veteran. I was born into the right to defend myself and I fought for that right as well. Don't tell me I'm crazy because I choose to carry a gun to defend myself and my loved ones from the scum in this country.

"I'd rather have it an not need it than need it and not have it"

Had a very similar experience some years ago. 3 guys in pickup tried to force me off the road. At the time, I carried a S&W Model 626 (4" .357) in my glove box. When I realized what was happening, I reached into the glove box and got the .357 out. When I looked up again, they had put the hammer down, pulled away, and exited at the next exit. Then I realized that when I pulled the gun out of the glove box, I had inadvertantly raised it above the dash so it was visible through the windsheild.

[billwot]

Originally Posted by wbradley

Chicago is a great city. But, they also had 36 shootings in 36 hours (yikes!). I guess there is a price to be paid for being a freedom loving 'Merican.

I just hate the idea of knowing everyone has a gun, a weapon that gives people the ability to play god on someone else's life. In the US there's something like 10 guns for every citizen. They also have by far the highest amount of gun related crimes per capita of anywhere in the developed world.

Now please tell me, if people could play back the timeline where events led to laws leading to gun proliferation, would they still want things to be where they are right now? What if you lose a loved one to a shooting? There is nothing, absolutely nothing that can justify the tragic loss of an innocent life. So many people finding excuses why its OK to be able to kill other people.

England has some of the lowest crime anywhere. The cops don't even carry guns in most places. So, if you can still enjoy your standard of living, exist in a democracy, own a car and a home, not have to fear for your life, why wouldn't you prefer to live in a society like England?

Civil engineers are specifically required to ensure they design structures that help maintain public safety. But society makes guns a popular item to own. Oh, and humans have been know to go crazy occasionally. Does that help public safety?

I'm finished.

Actually, there are approx 310 million guns (including both handguns and long guns) or something less than 1 gun per citizen.

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