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SubieNate · 10-24-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

Your coilovers probably have much less droop than factory. You're probably lifting a wheel. Pull the e-brake up gently and the diff will transfer torque back to the side still on the ground.

I'd put my money on coils not having enough droop travel as well.

Nathan

OrbitalEllipses · 10-24-2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

Your coilovers probably have much less droop than factory. You're probably lifting a wheel. Pull the e-brake up gently and the diff will transfer torque back to the side still on the ground.

Agreed.

Rayme · 10-24-2012, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Agreed.

I thought the drivings aids did that already. Brake the slipping wheel.

OrbitalEllipses · 10-24-2012, 07:48 PM

Lifting a rear wheel in a RWD drive car will cause this and the only remedy is a true LSD. I'm not sure how EBFD functions in this car and whether it does anything when a wheel is lifted. Don't rely on driver aids.

avp1 · 10-24-2012, 08:00 PM

This is an example of what happens when you do not understand what you are doing. Put back original springs/shocks and call it a day. This car is low enough for daily driving. If you are not building a dedicated race car, you do not need coilovers.

FlipFRS · 10-24-2012, 08:14 PM

this happens to me everyday, im pretty sure its just the traction control at work, but yeah it did sound like something was scraping bad the first time i heard it i got pretty scared.

86_ZN6 · 10-24-2012, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by avp1

This is an example of what happens when you do not understand what you are doing. Put back original springs/shocks and call it a day. This car is low enough for daily driving. If you are not building a dedicated race car, you do not need coilovers.

Thanks for your input but your comment does not help.

OrbitalEllipses · 10-24-2012, 09:02 PM

86_ZN6: the car doesn't have a lot of droop travel to begin with in the rear, as it is a carryover from the Impreza suspension that doesn't have a lot of droop travel. I would buy better coilovers. Japanese coilovers are never going to have that much droop travel and their valving sucks for our roads too.

86_ZN6 · 10-24-2012, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

86_ZN6: the car doesn't have a lot of droop travel to begin with in the rear, as it is a carryover from the Impreza suspension that doesn't have a lot of droop travel. I would buy better coilovers. Japanese coilovers are never going to have that much droop travel and their valving sucks for our roads too.

what i got are RS*R coils

OrbitalEllipses · 10-24-2012, 09:09 PM

Those aren't BAD coilovers, but probably not right for your application. Why coilovers anyway?

Talk to RaceComp or TIC. Those would be my go to suspension nerds.

86_ZN6 · 10-24-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Those aren't BAD coilovers, but probably not right for your application. Why coilovers anyway?

Talk to RaceComp or TIC. Those would be my go to suspension nerds.

i wanted something that can be adjusted to my own preference

since no adjustable shocks are available yet, i went with these coilovers

i used to have koni yellows and i loved those. hope they make one for our cars soon.

OrbitalEllipses · 10-24-2012, 09:17 PM

Adjustable as in compression/rebound or height? Again, I encourage talking to @Racecomp Engineering and @Turn in Concepts about this. You'll be able to pawn that set off on a forum member without much loss I bet, thus giving you the money for a proper setup. Though to me it sounds like you might have too much product for your needs.

86_ZN6 · 10-24-2012, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Adjustable as in compression/rebound or height? Again, I encourage talking to @RaceComp and @TurnInConcepts about this. You'll be able to pawn that set off on a forum member without much loss I bet, thus giving you the money for a proper setup. Thought to me it sounds like you might have too much product for your needs.

yes compression and rebound. i really dont want anything lower than 36mm so height is already good to me

i will keep in mind your advise if the problem continue to persist

thanks buddy!

i actually like a spring and shock combo but it seems like nothing is available yet. lowering on springs with stock shocks is just a no no for me

_F-R-S_ · 10-24-2012, 09:31 PM

I meAn that chassis is goirgeois

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OrbitalEllipses Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Attitude Location: MD Posts: 10,046 Thanks: 884 Thanked 4,889 Times in 2,902 Posts Mentioned: 123 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	Lifting a rear wheel in a RWD drive car will cause this and the only remedy is a true LSD. I'm not sure how EBFD functions in this car and whether it does anything when a wheel is lifted. Don't rely on driver aids.

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avp1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: Traded BRZ for Supra Location: Princeton, NJ Posts: 164 Thanks: 5 Thanked 49 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This is an example of what happens when you do not understand what you are doing. Put back original springs/shocks and call it a day. This car is low enough for daily driving. If you are not building a dedicated race car, you do not need coilovers.

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OrbitalEllipses Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Attitude Location: MD Posts: 10,046 Thanks: 884 Thanked 4,889 Times in 2,902 Posts Mentioned: 123 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	86_ZN6: the car doesn't have a lot of droop travel to begin with in the rear, as it is a carryover from the Impreza suspension that doesn't have a lot of droop travel. I would buy better coilovers. Japanese coilovers are never going to have that much droop travel and their valving sucks for our roads too.

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OrbitalEllipses Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Attitude Location: MD Posts: 10,046 Thanks: 884 Thanked 4,889 Times in 2,902 Posts Mentioned: 123 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	Those aren't BAD coilovers, but probably not right for your application. Why coilovers anyway? Talk to RaceComp or TIC. Those would be my go to suspension nerds.

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