2020 Toyota GR Supra Revealed!

[nikitopo]

Nice interview!

[RFB]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Doesn't matter what exchange rate is. In Canada a dollar is a dollar it doesn't go up and down.
And no our taxes are not some of the highest in the world. Just seems like it.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1559327089

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by RFB

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1559327089

I wish I only paid 33% income tax!

[RFB]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I wish I only paid 33% income tax!

Likewise !
These stats are from older lower taxes.

[gymratter]

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/mot...n-review.1843/

[ZDan]

If for every $100 you make you spend every single bit of the net post-tax amount on fuel, you are doing something pretty bad wrong...

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by ZDan

If for every $100 you make you spend every single bit of the net post-tax amount on fuel, you are doing something pretty bad wrong...

Well, it's not 100% accurate either, because it doesn't take into account the embedded taxes caused by corporate tax. In practicality, there is no such thing as a "corporate tax". All taxes are paid by the individual, either directly or indirectly. Corporations build their tax rates right into the cost of their products, just like they do with things like marketing, HR, and other overhead costs.

So, even more of your $100 budgeted for fuel is really tax dollars.

[ZDan]

So do you think the massive corporations that pay zero in taxes, or get subsidies from the government, that they really pass the savings on to you the consumer? Or rather do they pad CEO wealth with it, offshore it, or do stock buybacks with it...

Speaking specifically about fuel taxes, we have some choice regarding how far we commute and how fuel-efficiently we do it, so whether the tax is at the pump or on corporate profits, we have some control on how much we pay. So again I'll say that someone who spends every last dime of his post-tax income on fuel is doing something BAD wrong....

[Rampage]

Originally Posted by gymratter

Interesting article although the football analogy was very awkward. I could have done without that completely and would have liked to see some lap time comparisons instead. The Supra certainly seems to be a performance bargain if you can get one for near MSRP. Now the question is: Will the Supra have much improved reliability and repair cost over the other two German cars? If it does then it should have a successful production run.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by ZDan

So do you think the massive corporations that pay zero in taxes, or get subsidies from the government, that they really pass the savings on to you the consumer? Or rather do they pad CEO wealth with it, offshore it, or do stock buybacks with it....

Well we're in the wrong thread for this so I'll just say yes, I do believe that it would make it to the consumer, at least partially due to competition.

Regardless to think corporations pay the tax bill is naïve, whether it ends up at the government or in some fat cat's pocket, it all comes from the customer and is figured into the cost of doing business. Corporations figure the profit margin they need to run at, and then calculate the cost of the product to get there.

We can agree to disagree..

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Rampage

Interesting article although the football analogy was very awkward. I could have done without that completely and would have liked to see some lap time comparisons instead. The Supra certainly seems to be a performance bargain if you can get one for near MSRP. Now the question is: Will the Supra have much improved reliability and repair cost over the other two German cars? If it does then it should have a successful production run.

My exact thought. The author really went all in on that analogy, wasting space that could have been put to better use.

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by gymratter

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/mot...n-review.1843/

I'm encouraged by this review:

The steering is super quick and has absolutely zero dead spots, so every movement you make on the wheel directly translates into precision and accuracy on the road.

"This car requires quiet hands and a deft touch," road test editor Chris Walton said, "and this makes it fun to drive."

That quick steering will bite you if you aren't smooth and precise. When it does bite, though, the car becomes a Formula Drift champion. The car's balance and predictability while oversteering are entirely responsible for the longest drift I've ever completed on our figure-eight track.

This could be fun...

[StraightOuttaCanadaEh]

Just as I knew all along, the reviews would roll in, comparisons would be won and negative comments would turn into positives. How nearsighted people are. Looks phenomenal in that pic btw. Cayman looks like a turd next to it

[gymratter]

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/202...tateside.1846/