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This whole conversation has been based around the 1LE cars, specifically the SS version with some mild V6 1LE comparison thrown in throughout. No one said anything about a base 1LT Camaro until you brought that up. So, you're way off on who the failure is. |
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I agree race cars have different goals from the get-go so it's not really apples to apples. They can revalve those dampers between races which is not the case for many of us. Speaking of MRC, they do have some advantages besides being able to change the comfort,sport, track settings. It can sense when a car goes over a bump or on a rough surface and alter(soften) the rear suspension electromagnetically accordingly within the fraction of a second which will make it more stable. Same can be said for the braking zones or whenever there is some abrupt changes of the behavior of the front suspension. Both coilovers and MRC have their advantages and disadvantages of course. Tuning of the MRC is the most critical one in this case.The MRC tuning in the 2SS to a 1SS 1LE will be different because the 1LE is focused for track use vs 2SS is for comfort with some mild track use.
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Just a reminder that the Z28 and the up-coming ZL1 1LE both run spool valve dampers not MR. Hmmmm!
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I am not sure if Z28 is confirmed yet for the 2018 MY.
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Jaden Might as well say, "hey a base corvette handles better than a stock twin"....lol |
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Since I was directed to reread your thread...lol
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We aren't comparing a stock twin to a stock SS 1LE, we are comparing a boosted twin on aftermarket coils and rcomps which all combined will be similar money to the SS 1LE and learning the SS 1LE is still faster...
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I get to drive a lot of these bigger, more powerful cars at the limit on various autocross courses. Many of them have impressed me but only because of how well they manage their heft.
A dancing elephant can be both powerful and impressive, but an elephant that can dance is still an elephant. I understand why people are drawn to the formula, but numbers fail to convey the different driving experience to be had between cars that try to use physics as a dance partner and cars that try to beat physics into submission. |
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I don't believe that.
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Show me the proof, cause I don't believe for one minute that a twin with large R comps and coils that is boosted is slower around a track than a stock ss 1LE... How much boost and power, what kind of boost, which coils, how are they tuned? What size rcomps? Jaden |
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Seriously, @Jaden are you reading the thread in reverse? That sentiment you expressed was argued throughout and disproven in multiple ways. |
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Reading his build thread, the twin was making 260whp with a Kraftwerks SC, FA500 coils with 9k/9k springs on NT01s or Hankook Ventus Z214 C51 (medium) 245/40/17. And he was still 2 seconds a lap slower in the twin and said he is still getting faster in the Camaro. The 1LE package is no joke. |
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