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Old 07-14-2014, 06:10 PM   #5027
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So here's what we got.

We made a few of these to test the waters, basically a 3" MAF housing, support arm, and giant K&N filter. This is a huge amount of filtration area and it just clears the AC lines etc.



And an engine bay shot of the prototype (plain and made of scrap sections, new ones are one-piece, this filter is 5 years old and hasn't been cleaned!)



Note that with some oil coolers you may need to move it a bit closer towards the front. There's enough bracket on there so you can easily cut the end and drill a new hole.

Black and blue available as of today, we will make black, blue, and red for inventory later this month. Yellow is spoken for so that's August delivery.

Please understand the merits of a large surface area vs a cooler charge. We have been testing this setup on both pump gas and ethanol, with the 70mm pulley, intercooled and not, summer and winter. With the IC setup you won't notice the heat, on the non-IC setup and pump gas you will when you first take off on a really hot day. With ethanol the 10-15 degree difference makes 0 difference. For reference, the SC flows 445 CFM. You'll empty that engine bay hot air in seconds.

This intake is designed for a no compromise flow path. The filter and MAF body are as big as you'll ever need on the 210 (and 335....) Because we're not trying to fit it in the bumper space, the filter size is unrestricted.

Replacement filters are a common K&N part. This will give you lots of whine for sure, especially with the 70mm. See our youtube channel for examples.
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Old 07-14-2014, 06:31 PM   #5028
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Assuming requires a tune .... any cost for those that have your tune already, or is that additional...?


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So here's what we got.

We made a few of these to test the waters, basically a 3" MAF housing, support arm, and giant K&N filter. This is a huge amount of filtration area and it just clears the AC lines etc.



And an engine bay shot of the prototype (plain and made of scrap sections, new ones are one-piece, this filter is 5 years old and hasn't been cleaned!)



Note that with some oil coolers you may need to move it a bit closer towards the front. There's enough bracket on there so you can easily cut the end and drill a new hole.

Black and blue available as of today, we will make black, blue, and red for inventory later this month. Yellow is spoken for so that's August delivery.

Please understand the merits of a large surface area vs a cooler charge. We have been testing this setup on both pump gas and ethanol, with the 70mm pulley, intercooled and not, summer and winter. With the IC setup you won't notice the heat, on the non-IC setup and pump gas you will when you first take off on a really hot day. With ethanol the 10-15 degree difference makes 0 difference. For reference, the SC flows 445 CFM. You'll empty that engine bay hot air in seconds.

This intake is designed for a no compromise flow path. The filter and MAF body are as big as you'll ever need on the 210 (and 335....) Because we're not trying to fit it in the bumper space, the filter size is unrestricted.

Replacement filters are a common K&N part. This will give you lots of whine for sure, especially with the 70mm. See our youtube channel for examples.
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Assuming requires a tune .... any cost for those that have your tune already, or is that additional...?
No charge update

We also have an update we're ready to release to address free revving and tip in response. That's ready now!
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Old 07-14-2014, 07:32 PM   #5030
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So here's what we got.

Any thoughts of mounting this RIGHT off the throttle body?
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Any thoughts of mounting this RIGHT off the throttle body?
If it fits you can just cut off the mounting arm. We made this so it can work with the other systems that use the stock airbox, i.e. AVO, NA setups.

Where it sits it has the highest chance of getting cold air though. Putting it back there you're more likely to get the overpipe and heat from the passenger side head. Up front you're right by the bumper.
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.... got any pics of the blue mount? Wondering how well it matches up to WRB.
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Any thoughts of mounting this RIGHT off the throttle body?
Check PTuning's post in this thread.
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:09 AM   #5034
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So anyone who has tapped a boost gauge into the MAP plate, any tips?
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Old 07-15-2014, 07:31 AM   #5035
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So anyone who has tapped a boost gauge into the MAP plate, any tips?
I did it on one of my FA20club IAT plates, but never actually hooked it up since i had stopped using that sensor (and lost the tubing that came with my AEM failsafe). I've got replacement tubing now and may try to see if i can get it back together this afternoon.
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Been there, done that. This was my setup





but i quickly changed it to this due to heat problems...





The same filter sits behind where the foglight used to be.



Plus now..







in the enginebay..
No innercooler, upgraded pulley? Yup, definitely possible heat issues
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Hi,

The tunes we have developed will work on just about any fuel. We have worked with a few customers around the world to make sure the tunes are adjusted appropriately for the fuel used. So far we have seen that California 91 octane to be about the lowest grade around the world. Though places like South Africa seem to be about the same.

A 98 RON is equivalent to about a 93/94 octane as you have stated, so this is actually better than what we have and would be very easy to adjust for.

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Thanks for the reply William, are checking out all my options atm and waiting to see what Sprintex comes up with as well .

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E85 though and Sweden is not the warmest country in the world Plus the heat issues was even with the kit supplied 80mm pulley....

But, the best part is of course the extra space
I thought the kit came with a 75mm pulley....
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I thought the kit came with a 75mm pulley....
Innovate version is 75 - the others were different if memory serves
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Yeah i was a little confused myself.. This is an Innovate kit bought from Titan Motorsport. But with the 70mm on now, who cares
Haha very true! I was just curious...
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