This Video Review Completely Misses the Mark! - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Chad86 · 06-07-2014, 02:04 PM

This is the first video I have come across that does not give praise to our amazing little cars.

The GT86 is what the market has needed for a long time.

Check out the review...And to the point on the engine being noisy and not pleasant sounding to the ears, I totally disagree. Although, I will be adding a custom exhaust soon to accentuate the growl of that boxer engine.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjJKZi9O8PY"]Test Drive: 2014 Scion FR-S - YouTube[/ame]

gramicci101 · 06-07-2014, 02:10 PM

Thank god I bought a BRZ instead of an FR-S.

AVodka14 · 06-07-2014, 02:20 PM

Man, I knew I should have bought the BRZ...

FR-S Matt · 06-07-2014, 02:34 PM

I'm glad I still didn't get a BRZ because heated seats are dumb, and the front end isn't as aggressive looking as the FR-S IMO.

longhornjoe · 06-07-2014, 03:00 PM

Seems to be contradiction across that review. The first 3/4 of the review he's reciting the same things that we discussed everywhere across this site. No armrest, tiny back seat, little/no factory leather (upgrade) options, terrible stereo. But at the same time he's complimenting the balance and handling.

His comment about noise vs. sound is a bit puzzling. I've never been driving and had any problem with the sound of my (stock) FR-S. It's quiet when I'm just cruising along, and I enjoy the sound when I decide to jump on it.

In the final 1/4, the review goes schizo. In one breath he compliments the car saying that it "almost meets everything on (the) list to be a 'perfect' sports car" and then in the next breath goes on to say that "it's noisy, it lacks torque and drivability" and "lacks a fun-to-drive character."

I think it's funny and quite a bit revealing that he claims to have got 31 MPG in his week-long test of the car. The only way that I, personally, have been able to hit 30+ MPG driving this car has to drive it like a grandmother slowly accelerating and decelerating--not exceeding 3,000 RPM. This is something that you can do in this car without much trouble--if you want to. To have fun with this car, 5500+ RPMs is where it's at. This is just something most average drivers cannot do if you're getting 31 MPG over a week's time. This makes me wonder how he really considers 'driving' this car.

IMO, one of the best things about this car is that it can be driven economically and comfortably one moment or like a track-ready, momentum car the next. This versatility is one of the biggest draws to these cars.

suaveflooder · 06-07-2014, 03:00 PM

Sounds pretty accurate to me. Love how he give it 2 1/2 stars after calling it an "almost perfect sports car" Guys is a joke, and that's not just because I own an FRS

xrahxeastside · 06-07-2014, 03:56 PM

Right but his review of the R Line VW Beetle (that you can't turn the traction control off on) got a 4.5/5....

blackhawkdown · 06-07-2014, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

I'm glad I still didn't get a BRZ because heated seats are dumb, and the front end isn't as aggressive looking as the FR-S IMO.

you haven't live in Alaska where there is 9 months of winter and the average temperature is -20F. heated seats is a luxury item up here.

Vic · 06-07-2014, 06:30 PM

Still amazing how he got 31 mpg, guessing he drove the car like a grandma following the up shift arrow on the dash board LOL.

The whole point of this car is that you can drive it in the low rev range comfortably and civilized in town and behaves completely different on the track or autocross. That whole segment with him saying its not fun around town, hes basically telling people that we are SUPPOSE drive fast around town so they can run over dogs, children, cats, squirrels, unicorns. Bad.

Don't think he understands the point of the linear power band high revving engine versus the usual 'Murican muscle cars with low-end-smack-you-in-the-face-and-youre-done-torque. (But honestly, I love and appreciate muscle cars)

I want to see him review a miata or a s2k and hear what MPG he got on those.

But to end my trolling.

He ain't about that life tho.

Superhatch · 06-07-2014, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

I'm glad I still didn't get a BRZ because heated seats are dumb, and the front end isn't as aggressive looking as the FR-S IMO.

When it was -35* F this past winter the heated seats weren't dumb.

I do agree that our engine doesn't sound as smooth as some of the more refined I4s out there. Overall I think his review was pretty good...he just didn't really like the motor.

dobbrz · 06-07-2014, 09:19 PM

hes wearing a cowboy hat...that says it all

Burrcold · 06-07-2014, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

I'm glad I still didn't get a BRZ because heated seats are dumb, and the front end isn't as aggressive looking as the FR-S IMO.

Dumb for you. Not dumb for everyone.

Pistol · 06-07-2014, 11:07 PM

noisy are you kidding me, its too quiet !
this guy should hear it with an exhaust on

what a pansy!

ET86 · 06-08-2014, 03:51 AM

He's a mustang kind of guy. Also, headed seats make me feel like I pissed my pants.

06-07-2014, 03:00 PM	#5
longhornjoe Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: '13 Raven FR-S Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 25 Thanks: 18 Thanked 16 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Seems to be contradiction across that review. The first 3/4 of the review he's reciting the same things that we discussed everywhere across this site. No armrest, tiny back seat, little/no factory leather (upgrade) options, terrible stereo. But at the same time he's complimenting the balance and handling. His comment about noise vs. sound is a bit puzzling. I've never been driving and had any problem with the sound of my (stock) FR-S. It's quiet when I'm just cruising along, and I enjoy the sound when I decide to jump on it. In the final 1/4, the review goes schizo. In one breath he compliments the car saying that it "almost meets everything on (the) list to be a 'perfect' sports car" and then in the next breath goes on to say that "it's noisy, it lacks torque and drivability" and "lacks a fun-to-drive character." I think it's funny and quite a bit revealing that he claims to have got 31 MPG in his week-long test of the car. The only way that I, personally, have been able to hit 30+ MPG driving this car has to drive it like a grandmother slowly accelerating and decelerating--not exceeding 3,000 RPM. This is something that you can do in this car without much trouble--if you want to. To have fun with this car, 5500+ RPMs is where it's at. This is just something most average drivers cannot do if you're getting 31 MPG over a week's time. This makes me wonder how he really considers 'driving' this car. IMO, one of the best things about this car is that it can be driven economically and comfortably one moment or like a track-ready, momentum car the next. This versatility is one of the biggest draws to these cars. Last edited by longhornjoe; 06-07-2014 at 03:02 PM. Reason: grammers

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06-07-2014, 02:10 PM	#2
gramicci101 Off Topic Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Vegas, baby! Posts: 4,610 Thanks: 2,369 Thanked 4,243 Times in 2,170 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Thank god I bought a BRZ instead of an FR-S.

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AVodka14 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 Raven FRS MT Location: KY Posts: 857 Thanks: 351 Thanked 302 Times in 185 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Man, I knew I should have bought the BRZ...

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suaveflooder Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: San Diego Posts: 2,295 Thanks: 2,708 Thanked 1,052 Times in 664 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sounds pretty accurate to me. Love how he give it 2 1/2 stars after calling it an "almost perfect sports car" Guys is a joke, and that's not just because I own an FRS

06-07-2014, 03:56 PM	#7
xrahxeastside Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: Firestorm Red FR-S Location: East Coast Posts: 55 Thanks: 12 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Right but his review of the R Line VW Beetle (that you can't turn the traction control off on) got a 4.5/5....

06-07-2014, 06:30 PM	#9
Vic 63 Auto Body Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 2013 SCION FR-S WHITEOUT Location: NYC Posts: 258 Thanks: 84 Thanked 130 Times in 68 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Still amazing how he got 31 mpg, guessing he drove the car like a grandma following the up shift arrow on the dash board LOL. The whole point of this car is that you can drive it in the low rev range comfortably and civilized in town and behaves completely different on the track or autocross. That whole segment with him saying its not fun around town, hes basically telling people that we are SUPPOSE drive fast around town so they can run over dogs, children, cats, squirrels, unicorns. Bad. Don't think he understands the point of the linear power band high revving engine versus the usual 'Murican muscle cars with low-end-smack-you-in-the-face-and-youre-done-torque. (But honestly, I love and appreciate muscle cars) I want to see him review a miata or a s2k and hear what MPG he got on those. But to end my trolling. He ain't about that life tho.

06-07-2014, 09:19 PM	#11
dobbrz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: RB v1 FRS Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 165 Thanks: 40 Thanked 79 Times in 44 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	hes wearing a cowboy hat...that says it all

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Pistol Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 86 Location: Melbourne Posts: 94 Thanks: 180 Thanked 64 Times in 38 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	noisy are you kidding me, its too quiet ! this guy should hear it with an exhaust on what a pansy!

06-08-2014, 03:51 AM	#14
ET86 Perfectionist Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2014 Scion FRS Location: Hayweird, CA Posts: 152 Thanks: 19 Thanked 65 Times in 47 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	He's a mustang kind of guy. Also, headed seats make me feel like I pissed my pants.

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