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Old 08-09-2014, 11:12 AM   #71
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FRS and IS are too different to even bring in the same topic. Just finacially, I would pick FRS, because it is cheaper.
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Old 08-09-2014, 01:53 PM   #72
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Quarter miles and laps around the Nurburging times I could care less about.
You could care less? So then you do care
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I would personally say that if your budget is 43k, you go for the RS 1.0 FRS and put the remaining funds into mods for the car. In the end, I feel the frs has more overall potential.. If you're planning on keeping it stock though I'd go for the IS.
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You could care less? So then you do care
Its more of a polite way to say I dont give a f*ck
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Its more of a polite way to say I dont give a f*ck
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Old 08-14-2014, 01:25 AM   #76
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If you are on the market for new 2014 is350 I would jump on it now. They are letting them for for few thousand below invoice since the new 2015 just came out.

I just bought a 2014 is350 F sports, Mark Levinson Navigation, Blind Spot Assist, preferred package, and door sill for under $42,000 the MSRP was $48,700. Still more than a FRS but you really get what you paid for.

Check out the reviews on the youtube. seems like they are saying is350 f sports are far better than other german competitors.
$42k? Wow thats really good. I was at the dealership today talking lease options and the rates are great but, not as great as that price!
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If you are on the market for new 2014 is350 I would jump on it now. They are letting them for for few thousand below invoice since the new 2015 just came out.

I just bought a 2014 is350 F sports, Mark Levinson Navigation, Blind Spot Assist, preferred package, and door sill for under $42,000 the MSRP was $48,700. Still more than a FRS but you really get what you paid for.

Check out the reviews on the youtube. seems like they are saying is350 f sports are far better than other german competitors.
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Seriously, don't waste your money on a depreciating asset until you pay your loans off. You already have reliable transportation to work that is costing you next to nothing, enjoy the awesomeness that is not having a monthly car payment at least until you've paid off your student loans.
Totally disagree. Life's short, drive a fun car now!
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Ok. I own a 2013 FR-S. It's really fun. But, it's just too noisy. And not good kinda noisy. Simply, it's unrefined. In fact, two years later, I've had enough. I have been test driving BMWs (228) and Audi (A4 and A3). I was about to go with the 228i with m sport suspension, etc. Before signing the papers, I thought I should drive an IS. I knew I wouldn't like the 250 but didn't think the 350 was in my price range. And wasn't sure it would be sporty enough. But, wow I drove an IS 350 F sport and it was really fun AND refined! And they are making deals on it that make it way more affordable to lease than a BMW. Currently, I own outright my FR-S (paid all cash). This time I'm going to "test drive" it for a couple years (i.e.: lease it) and if I truly fall in love, I'll buy it when the lease is up. If not, I'll move on to something else. This is what I should have done with the FR-S; I wouldn't have bought it when the lease was up.
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Ok. I own a 2013 FR-S. It's really fun. But, it's just too noisy. And not good kinda noisy. Simply, it's unrefined. In fact, two years later, I've had enough. I have been test driving BMWs (228) and Audi (A4 and A3). I was about to go with the 228i with m sport suspension, etc. Before signing the papers, I thought I should drive an IS. I knew I wouldn't like the 250 but didn't think the 350 was in my price range. And wasn't sure it would be sporty enough. But, wow I drove an IS 350 F sport and it was really fun AND refined! And they are making deals on it that make it way more affordable to lease than a BMW. Currently, I own outright my FR-S (paid all cash). This time I'm going to "test drive" it for a couple years (i.e.: lease it) and if I truly fall in love, I'll buy it when the lease is up. If not, I'll move on to something else. This is what I should have done with the FR-S; I wouldn't have bought it when the lease was up.
damn man sorry to hear how displeased you are with the car but honestly what did you think you were going to get with a low cost sports car. its a real sports car, its not made to warm your ass and make sure that your awake at the wheel or tell you that there is someone in the lane next to you. i don't think comparing this car to the is 350 f sport or the beemer is fair. I've driven the 350 and i still picked the frs over it and to this day still will. i fricken love my car!

hope you find the right car for yourself!
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damn man sorry to hear how displeased you are with the car but honestly what did you think you were going to get with a low cost sports car. its a real sports car, its not made to warm your ass and make sure that your awake at the wheel or tell you that there is someone in the lane next to you. i don't think comparing this car to the is 350 f sport or the beemer is fair. I've driven the 350 and i still picked the frs over it and to this day still will. i fricken love my car!

hope you find the right car for yourself!
Mine makes noises that are not normal. Even the dealer agrees but has failed to fix them except one; the high pitched chirp sound the fuel pump made. After replacing it TWICE it appears this is fixed. Otherwise, the rattle from the back and a strange noise the engine makes, they haven't fixed yet even though they've tried multiple times. I have one of the very first production models and they screwed up a few things that just cant be fixed - I guess. Very disappointing. I want sooo badly to"fricken love my car"; but, these issues prevent that from happening. . Moving on... with another Toyota... Haha go figure.
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Totally disagree. Life's short, drive a fun car now!
Or be financially responsible now so you can drive fun cars for the rest of your life, your choice...
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Or be financially responsible now so you can drive fun cars for the rest of your life, your choice...
NOT necessarily mutually exclusive.
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Life is short. I wouldn't fret about 10K in student loans like other folks around here are suggesting.

You have your whole life ahead of you to pay that down. Gotta have fun and sometimes treat yourself to the nicer things in life..

You can't take it with you..

If I prioritized personal finances over everything else, I would never go on a date.. Go out to cool restaurants.. Or take fun trips. I would miss out on all the fun things in life and become incredibly boring.
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Life is short. I wouldn't fret about 10K in student loans like other folks around here are suggesting.

You have your whole life ahead of you to pay that down. Gotta have fun and sometimes treat yourself to the nicer things in life..

You can't take it with you..

If I prioritized personal finances over everything else, I would never go on a date.. Go out to cool restaurants.. Or take fun trips. I would miss out on all the fun things in life and become incredibly boring.
This is exactly the logic that causes people to get stuck living paycheck to paycheck. Look, if you can afford a $40k car, you can probably pay your student loans off in 6 months or less. I paid $30k in loans off in under 2 years and I certainly can't afford a $40k car. The less interest you pay every month, the more money you will have to spend on things you want (mods, gas, trips, etc). You will also have better credit, and therefore will pay less interest on everything you borrow money for in the future.



So let's say you buy the Lexus tomorrow and your income allows you to just barely make payments for both the car and the student loans. You take out a 6 year loan on the lexus and let's assume you have 10 years left on your student loans. Let's say you're paying 6% on all of your loans for argument sake. With this model, you are going to pay $8,381 of interest by the time both loans are paid off.

Now let's say you take my advice and pay off your student loans first by putting the money you would be spending on the Lexus towards your student loans. Then, once those are paid off next November, you buy the Lexus and again borrow $40k. We'll assume interest on both is again 6%, even though it would likely be lower for the Lexus now that you're debt free. So now that you have the Lexus, you put the money you were spending on student loans towards the Lexus. When the car is paid off, you will have spent $5,262 on interest and both loans will be paid off completely over a year earlier.

By being patient, you have just saved yourself $3,118 in interest alone. If you're willing to put a bit more towards paying off your debts (I paid $1500 a month towards my student loans, for example), these numbers skew in favor of waiting on the car even more heavily.

Also, during the time you drive your current car (assuming you wait to buy something), you will save money on gas (most likely), insurance, tax, and maintenance (most likely), and depreciation that you could put towards paying off your student loans, which should also be factored in. These things will save you even more money in the long run.

You're probably sitting there justifying all of this interest payment in your mind. Don't. Take $20 out of your pocket and light it on fire. Watch it until it's completely gone. Think about all of the things you could have just spent that $20 on that you now can't. This is exactly what paying interest is. Think before you spend money you haven't earned. You'll find you have a lot more money than you think.

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