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Old 09-24-2013, 12:10 PM   #141
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They don't matter to me either, I'm just responding to people saying the 2500 limited run isn't any more rare than any other BRZ or FRS or GT86. It actually is, simple math, numbers are numbers. Sour grapes or Scion hate don't change the actual numbers.

I bought it for the feature set and looks. I hate argento/silver, but Silver ignition is badass. Don't care for the BRZ mouthguard bumper, boomerang lights, black tach, silver dash. Nor do I like being forced to buy/pay for what I consider an ugly spoiler to get the push button start or dual zone climate. Leather is also just more work to maintain which matters not as I'll be replacing the seats anyway, so why pay for those in my case.

Regardless, everyone has their own preferences so no right answer. The 10 series gave many of us a choice for a combination of features we couldn't get previously and all wanted. Before that, it was which car would I buy to start swapping parts into. That's why we/I bought it. So stop hating people.
if you dont want to be quoted, just ask and it wouldnt be a problem. what not to do is ask in an incredibly **** way and then immediately quote something else i said (despite not wanting to talk to me) that doesnt involve you at all just to further how shitty you want to be all to end up deleting your posts.
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Old 09-24-2013, 03:21 PM   #142
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This seems relevant.

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Old 09-25-2013, 11:51 PM   #143
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Subaru's hold their value well and they also have a GTP.
No they dont, look how much a year old brz depreciates comparing to other cars out there in 30k price range. You'll be surprised.
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Old 09-26-2013, 03:53 AM   #144
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if you dont want to be quoted, just ask and it wouldnt be a problem.
Really? It's only the third time I've had to ask you. Must have gotten absorbed by your reality distortion field. Consider this the fourth time.
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Old 09-26-2013, 03:40 PM   #145
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No they dont, look how much a year old brz depreciates comparing to other cars out there in 30k price range. You'll be surprised.
The BRZ is not at 30K car

Right behind Mini..


BMW and Subaru Have Best Resale Value, Says Kelley Blue Book

Used Limited BRZ in my area still going over MSRP.
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac...079810548.html

Ref.
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4092425502.html

Bank Appraised his BRZ to 29.3K
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2531589
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Old 09-26-2013, 04:21 PM   #146
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I would have gone with the 10
If they came in white and the dealer didn't lard it up with tint, wing, mud flaps to well over the the cost for a Limited that comes standard with more options. I say BRZ Limited unless you just need those headlights.
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Old 09-26-2013, 04:51 PM   #147
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Go to the "Issues Warranties Recalls" section and read some of the threads.

Both cars have issues (to be expected) but there is a common difference in how the warranty on each of them is honored/handled. Not saying its black and white but you will find a common theme there.

After reading that thread you might have a more clear idea of which brand you want to buy.
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:53 AM   #148
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You can ask whatever you want for the car, will you get that? Depends, most likely not as easy as you think. Just for reference

2013 with 6k went for $23,750.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Subaru-BRZ-L...US_Cars_Trucks

or this one - $23,797.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Subaru-BRZ-2...US_Cars_Trucks

Generally you can buy one for 23k-24 even locally on craigslist. Heck, you can even buy ones with few mods on it, such as exhaust etc for that price, if you look at surrounding states. That's how the situation looks like at least in the Midwest region. And yes, according to me, BRZ Limited is a $30k car, I count taxes etc. That's what I paid out the door in April (Chicago taxes, new plates). In comparison, my other car I bought new, is 2008 Lexus IS250. I paid $30K for it out the door with some options. After the year, car was still worth more than $24k. Don't look at statistics, look at real life. I don't know how the market with BRZ's looks in CALI, but if you pay marked up price at this point of time, where there is no more shortage of this model- You are a moron or rich kid who don't give a damn, if he pays 2-4k more over MSRP (that's an entry level turbo kit right there).
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:47 AM   #149
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Generally you can buy one for 23k-24 even locally on craigslist. Heck, you can even buy ones with few mods on it, such as exhaust etc for that price, if you look at surrounding states. That's how the situation looks like at least in the Midwest region. And yes, according to me, BRZ Limited is a $30k car, I count taxes etc. That's what I paid out the door in April (Chicago taxes, new plates). In comparison, my other car I bought new, is 2008 Lexus IS250. I paid $30K for it out the door with some options. After the year, car was still worth more than $24k. Don't look at statistics, look at real life. I don't know how the market with BRZ's looks in CALI, but if you pay marked up price at this point of time, where there is no more shortage of this model- You are a moron or rich kid who don't give a damn, if he pays 2-4k more over MSRP (that's an entry level turbo kit right there).
OTD price varies considerably from state to state. Anyone in the continental US can get a Limited for about $26K before tax, tag, title if they are willing to ship the car. Some states, tax, tag, and title will be well under $1K, so the BRZ is not really a $30K car depending on where you live. I live in the midwest and paid $29K out the door on my Limited.
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:49 PM   #150
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I looked at both car and really did not have any consideration of Subaru or Scion (I have owned each brand in the past). Things I considered important were HID lights, Nav/radio, and AT ... and the price. I was able to buy the 10 series for about 2K less than the loaded Subaru ... with the important equipment ... in the end, that sold me. The fact that Subaru dealership kept changing the numbers also convinced me to go elsewhere.
My preferred color would have been red ... but the sliver ignition has really grown on me ... I like it!

So I now have the 10 series ... I am happy with it! M advice, find what is important to you and price it out!
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:37 AM   #151
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Saw the Silver Ignition in person the other day, great color.

I'm a previous Subaru owner, so my loyalty is with Subaru. Scion's image is too 'boy-racer' and 'young and hip' for me, personally. Light up badges? Light up dash panel? Small gimmicks.

It comes down to which fascia you like, really. The BRZ is the more reserved of the two. FRS is very 'nose-heavy' looking and the BRZ has the famous 'stache'.

And comparison of prices is hard to do, yes. I was able to order my 2014 below invoice pricing.
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:12 AM   #152
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I like both the FRS and BRZ, just went for the BRZ because the closest Toyota dealer that also sell Scions is almost 150 miles away.
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Old 10-10-2013, 04:56 AM   #153
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If you can deal with the color silver and the ugly emblems on the 10 series, then i'd advise you to get that.
The Silver Ignition in PERSON looks decently good. It's a smooth silver without the shiny stuff in the paint and looks blue at times.
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Old 10-10-2013, 09:43 AM   #154
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some reasons i went 10 over BRZ

a) headlights
b) front looked much better than the black plastic brz
c) much more toyota dealerships
d) 10 was actually limited unlike brz "limited" which was just a name
e) unique/uncommon color

either way, you cant lose... its a great car.
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