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Don't worry; it isn't. And are we still going on about the 3rd gear shift to get to 60mph? Really? It's been proven enough times that the manual FR-S does 0-60 in 6.2-6.3sec. So drop it, please.
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Just with power to weight and other factors I'd figure it'd be as fast as the new Civic SI, and for the most part, it is. But even if it wasn't as fast, it still wouldn't have mattered to me. Well, as long as it wasn't like 0-60 in 8 seconds... All of this talk is ridiculous anyway. Most streets I drive on are 0-35, 0-40. And unless I want to get an "exhibition of speed" ticket, I'm taking 10 seconds from 0 to whatever anyway. |
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you have to shift to 3rd before 100 km/h but at 99km/h your doing 61.5 mph and you're still in second gear, so no you dont have to hit 3rd to get to 60 im surprised this isnt common knowledge on this forum yet....
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Some do. I remember the first WRX STi needing to hit third to get to 60 mph, which was why a lot of the first tests had the Evo hitting 60 slightly more quickly (since it could hit 60 at the top of second)... I believe it was Road & Track who mentioned that. The C63 AMG was also a competitor. That one also had an auto and was quicker to accelerate to pretty much any speed than the M3. And the IS-F and S4/RS4. (Not sure about the CTS-V though.) |
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I won't go into the whole story of AT in 86 project as its off-topic, but I'm sure we'll see something special in the first production run. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO8lOjqhLJQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO8lOjqhLJQ[/ame] |
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Mercedes' AMG is the German equivalent of an American muscle car. All horsepower and no handling; pointless except to show off.
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I don't see why some people feel the need to enter threads they have no interest in and stir up crap. The original question was simply a question about the official 0-60 times published from Toyota. That question was answered in post #7 by Jeff.
I can understand further discussion about why the times are different, but I don't understand the need for some people to come in here and act like they have an omniscient understanding of automobiles and start putting down other people's preferences in cars. What is the point of that? I think this forum has seen enough hate from people not even interested in the car at all, that we don't need to start stirring crap against each other in BRZ vs. FRS debates or Automatic vs. Manual silliness. |
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"No handling"? Damn near every review of the C63 seems to think it's a fun car through the bends, even though it doesn't do so as gracefully or as precisely as the M3. I thought it was a fun car... one of my clients has a C63 and was kind enough to bring it to my office one day when signing paperwork. Let's just say that I wouldn't mind owning one.
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Where's Jordo now to argue about how the AT will be faster....
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It's an IS trans with new tuning and *maybe* new solenoids.. Fact is with sports cars MT cars generally are worth more than AT cars, at least on cars I've looked at in the past. For the last 10 years I've mostly only owned cars that were only sold with manuals, which is my preference for cars.. I'd rather not have development money wasted on ATs
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Agreed. And it's the reason I would never even consider an IS-F.
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