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Old 01-23-2014, 04:14 PM   #1
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FI worth it?

So I've been thinking of putting a greddy turbo in my car somewhere down the road. Not really in any rush but I guess my real question(s) would be

1. Is it worth the price for the 93hp gain
2. Given that it will be my daily driver and I'm not always punching it with some spirited driving every now and then what are the odds of blowing my motor?
3. Would anyone recommend any other turbos for better gains on a 91 tune? E85 is pretty hard to come by where I'm from
4.any input from actual greddy turbo owners?

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Old 01-23-2014, 04:21 PM   #2
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My first quesiton would be why did you target the Greddy kit? Now your answers:

1. Yes it is worth it, and you can get more than a 92whp gain with the Greddy kit
2. I believe the odds to be low as long as you have a good tune and a motor working properly
3. I would recommend the Full Blown, P&L, PTuning, and JDL turbo kits for better gains on a 91 octane tune. It seems weird that E85 is so hard to find in SoCal.
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Old 01-23-2014, 04:24 PM   #3
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1: yes it is worth it, but you're going to want a lot more than 92whp. you may not think so now, but you will in due time. these cars don't respond to power the way other 'lightweight' cars do, ime.

2: depends 100% entirely upon your tune. same as if the car was bone stock with nothing but a tune. a properly tuned car doesn't care that there's a turbo hanging off of it until you really start moving some air.

3: i'd recommend anything except the greddy kit or avo (turbos too small). basically, anything with a garrett or precision turbo that suits your budget and needs. i run a rev works kit with the gtx2867r and it's spectacular, but not yet widely available.

4: not from me

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Old 01-23-2014, 05:31 PM   #7
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My first quesiton would be why did you target the Greddy kit? Now your answers:

1. Yes it is worth it, and you can get more than a 92whp gain with the Greddy kit
2. I believe the odds to be low as long as you have a good tune and a motor working properly
3. I would recommend the Full Blown, P&L, PTuning, and JDL turbo kits for better gains on a 91 octane tune. It seems weird that E85 is so hard to find in SoCal.
4. @shiro and @Pablitomarrero
Which full blown kit are you running? And about how much hp are you pushing? Another question what supporting mods would you recommend.
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If you've got the cash to comfortably make a purchase, why the hell not?


Oh, and I see you're in SoCal, so are we! Feel free to check out our last install for the FBM Turbo kit:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9DRA76iVW0"]2013 Scion FR-S Full Blown Turbo Installation - YouTube[/ame]
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"Worth it" is a relative term.

If cash isn't an issue and you think your car needs more power, then yeah, it's worth it. It's hard to beat the hp per $ ratio of FI.

If you don't have 5 or 6 grand, or you don't find yourself craving more power, then no, it's probably not worth it
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Which full blown kit are you running? And about how much hp are you pushing? Another question what supporting mods would you recommend.
I had the Stage 1 Base kit. I made 320 whp on a Dynojet. These would be my top 3 supporting mods in order: Wideband, boost gauge, and clutch.
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Old 01-23-2014, 06:40 PM   #11
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I don't mean to troll.. but...

If most of your driving is going to be done on the street.
You aren't ever looking to go above 220 ft lbs. (what the stock clutch can handle)
Want something easy to install and low maintenance.
Reliable with great drivability.

Why not the Innovate? Great, instant, power down low for passing.. simple..

If you want turbo I won't stop you but if you are shopping why not look at all the options.. there is definitely more headroom with a turbo but to get there it requires a lot more parts and money.
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I don't mean to troll.. but...

If most of your driving is going to be done on the street.
You aren't ever looking to go above 220 ft lbs. (what the stock clutch can handle)
Want something easy to install and low maintenance.
Reliable with great drivability.

Why not the Innovate? Great, instant, power down low for passing.. simple..

If you want turbo I won't stop you but if you are shopping why not look at all the options.. there is definitely more headroom with a turbo but to get there it requires a lot more parts and money.
because you can almost make as much power na with e85? really, if you're investing in fi, you want headroom and a significant increase in power. otherwise, the value just isn't there. not to mention all the issues that kit is having with heatsoak, leaking, etc.

the big thing though is that the blower is just too small. it's only good for just enough power to make you realize you want more . turbos are far more future-proof, in the never-ending pursuit of more power lol.
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Old 01-23-2014, 07:22 PM   #13
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So I've been thinking of putting a greddy turbo in my car somewhere down the road. Not really in any rush but I guess my real question(s) would be

1. Is it worth the price for the 93hp gain
2. Given that it will be my daily driver and I'm not always punching it with some spirited driving every now and then what are the odds of blowing my motor?
3. Would anyone recommend any other turbos for better gains on a 91 tune? E85 is pretty hard to come by where I'm from
4.any input from actual greddy turbo owners?

Thanks in advance
I'd venture I have more Greddy seat time than the majority. I don't own the kit (or a BRZ/FRS for that matter), but I can probably answer your questions.

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I don't mean to troll.. but...

If most of your driving is going to be done on the street.
You aren't ever looking to go above 220 ft lbs. (what the stock clutch can handle)
Want something easy to install and low maintenance.
Reliable with great drivability.

Why not the Innovate? Great, instant, power down low for passing.. simple..

If you want turbo I won't stop you but if you are shopping why not look at all the options.. there is definitely more headroom with a turbo but to get there it requires a lot more parts and money.
Because the Greddy will blow the innovate car out of the water in a straight line, using equivalent 91 tunes, or E85 tunes, etc.

Even with the same peak whp, the Greddy will have a fatter powerband. Such is the nature of SC vs TC.
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