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Old 10-25-2017, 04:57 AM   #211
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Try as I might I could not get oil past 111C. I gave up after 30 minutes as it wasn't really going anywhere.

I would say that my driving style is to over drive the car. This track is fairly technical.

OBD Logged Temps:
Max Ambient = 24C
Max Oil = 111C
Max Coolant = 94C

Tyres = Dunlop Z2 225/45 R17

Car is NA, running ACE header, ACE FP, CSGxMXP Touring 86 exhaust and Delicious EcuTek tune.

Coolant and oil temp axis on the left in C.
RPM axis is on the right.

I have also attached my best lap for the day, happened during this logging session. Car is probably good for a much faster time but I need to improve as a driver before I can get it sub 1:50.

(BTW that foam I placed around the radiator is still fine, actually did some temperature testing vs the OEM stuff and it held up slightly better, not bad for regular foam from the hardware shop)

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Old 10-25-2017, 03:16 PM   #212
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I ran grattan racing earlier this year, outside temp was about 18C.
I didnt log the data, but the highest oil temp was 108C, and it drop very quickly.
water temp was very stable at 88C, didnt move more than 2C in the whole day
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Noob question, is this a bit of an overkill for someone planning to stay NA?
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Noob question, is this a bit of an overkill for someone planning to stay NA?
For street/daily driving, yes. For the track it's not really necessary but you will NEVER overheat lol.

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I probably should be a bit more specific...

The only major performance mod I have is the JDL UEL headers, so no heatshield. Nothing else planned so far.

I do plan to do a few track days a year. My car seems to be burning coolant on the track on a cool October day at Seattle, so much so that I lost half a day waiting for the car to cool down before I can fill it back up. I'm planning to go down south to Laguna Seca in the coming summer so I though I'd go prepared this time. I'd hate to waste another half a day due to cooling.

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For street/daily driving, yes. For the track it's not really necessary but you will NEVER overheat lol.

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For street/daily driving, yes. For the track it's not really necessary but you will NEVER overheat lol.

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Not really necessary for the track? No need for an oil cooler for the track? In what parallel universe that is even possible?
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I probably should be a bit more specific...

The only major performance mod I have is the JDL UEL headers, so no heatshield. Nothing else planned so far.

I do plan to do a few track days a year. My car seems to be burning coolant on the track on a cool October day at Seattle, so much so that I lost half a day waiting for the car to cool down before I can fill it back up. I'm planning to go down south to Laguna Seca in the coming summer so I though I'd go prepared this time. I'd hate to waste another half a day due to cooling.
Then I would highly recommend it for you. Oil and water temp should be very stable with this radiator cooler combo. From my experience you could highly benefit from running a thermostat that opens a bit earlier as well as it had the most dramatic effect in my case. But once it gets cold I would put the stock one back in.

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Not really necessary for the track? No need for an oil cooler for the track? In what parallel universe that is even possible?
For an NA in cool weather and let's say autocross or a drifting track, no it's not necessary.

For a high-speed track with long straightway, it would be recommended but it all depends on the weather condition. My temps dramatically changed when driving in 100 degrees weather vs 90. I doubt you would overheat an NA in less than 90 degree weather.

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For an NA in cool weather and let's say autocross or a drifting track, no it's not necessary.

For a high-speed track with long straightway, it would be recommended but it all depends on the weather condition. My temps dramatically changed when driving in 100 degrees weather vs 90. I doubt you would overheat an NA in less than 90 degree weather.

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If we are talking here about oil, I can tell you that on track after two or three aggressive laps, your oil will scream to be cooled down. And I would definitely recommend an oil cooler for track. Especially in hot climate! Not so much a new radiator as it will do the job just fine. Unless..you go FI, then a bigger radiator is recommended then too!
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For an NA in cool weather and let's say autocross or a drifting track, no it's not necessary.

For a high-speed track with long straightway, it would be recommended but it all depends on the weather condition. My temps dramatically changed when driving in 100 degrees weather vs 90. I doubt you would overheat an NA in less than 90 degree weather.

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I drift in the midwest (cold temperatures), with an NA setup, and spent the steep price for this setup for a reason... if you go hard tracking, no matter the weather or the type of tracking, you'll end up needing an oil cooler
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I drift in the midwest (cold temperatures), with an NA setup, and spent the steep price for this setup for a reason... if you go hard tracking, no matter the weather or the type of tracking, you'll end up needing an oil cooler
From my experience both NA and FI on a small drifting area (Yas Marina VDA) a session takes about 2-3 minutes. Temperature here almost never drops below 70 degrees and you're lucky if it's in the 80s. I never had oil temp issues when I was NA or on my T518z turbo setup without an oil cooler.

On a longer track sure, but if you're tracking that hard might as well get an oil cooler regardless.

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From my experience both NA and FI on a small drifting area (Yas Marina VDA) a session takes about 2-3 minutes. Temperature here almost never drops below 70 degrees and you're lucky if it's in the 80s. I never had oil temp issues when I was NA or on my T518z turbo setup without an oil cooler.

On a longer track sure, but if you're tracking that hard might as well get an oil cooler regardless.

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If you only drift 2 minutes, sure.. but if you're doing long sessions, no matter if it's hotlapping or waiting in line, you'll overheat
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