New FR-S Owner! First manual car for me, various questions!

[bcj]

I like my stock clutch. ner.
That's why I finally sold the Alfa. One leg was swole up more than the other.

[jcutner]

Originally Posted by airjonny

How long did it take you to get comfortable driving it? Did you learn on the car?

Still learning in fact, don't feel 100% comfortable yet, but each day is better. I don't have much time to drive during the week (I take the subway to work, so it's basically just my weekend car).

[leets4uc3]

We removed the clutch spring out of my friends BRZ and my FRS it made a huge difference. I would try that out. Only takes 5 minutes and you can put it back in if you don't like it. I bet you will throw the spring away like we did. There is DIY on here.

I also had to bleed the **** out of my clutch. When I first bought this car I thought I had to get used to the stage 2 clutch. Nope... Just couldn't feel a thing due to the two reasons above.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by bcj

I like my stock clutch. ner.
That's why I finally sold the Alfa. One leg was swole up more than the other.

You might want to have that looked at. They do have meds for that.

I remember, back-in-the-day, I was visiting this young lady, in her apartment in San Francisco, when I excused myself to use her bathroom. There on the vanity was a medicine container ...... which read ...... "tetracycline".

I brought it out to her and asked her if there was something I should know about ........

She laughed and said ...... she takes that for her complexion problem.

.... of relief


humfrz

[spike021]

Originally Posted by jvincent

IIRC it sits noticeably higher than the other pedals before adjustment, so using those as a guage I guess it would feel high, even to somebody new to MT.

The pedal, sure, but the bite point? nah. I was completely new to manual and I had no reference point for how high or low the bite point should be.

I've actually gotten so used to it because of learning MT for the first time that I'm afraid to adjust it by: 1) removing the spring, and/or 2) changing the bite point height.

[Detroiter]

The clutch on this car is weird for sure. But go drive a stage 3 evo or sti clutch and you'll come back thankful you don't have to deal with that every day.

The hardest clutch I've encountered was on my friends evo 8 with a dual disk setup. That thing was the most unforgiving car I have ever seen. You have to rev it up to 5k just to start from a stop without stalling, it's practically impossible to do it with any amount of smoothness as it acts as an on/off switch either being engaged or disengaged.

[jcutner]

Originally Posted by spike021

The pedal, sure, but the bite point? nah. I was completely new to manual and I had no reference point for how high or low the bite point should be.

I've actually gotten so used to it because of learning MT for the first time that I'm afraid to adjust it by: 1) removing the spring, and/or 2) changing the bite point height.

I think this will be my strategy too, each time I'm getting more familiar and comfortable with it.

[leets4uc3]

Removing the spring will only make you feel the clutch engagement better. I highly recommend it.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by leets4uc3

Removing the spring will only make you feel the clutch engagement better. I highly recommend it.

Better than what? Again with no reference point there is no "better". I took mine out and promptly put it back again so "better" is subjective anyway.

[leets4uc3]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Better than what? Again with no reference point there is no "better". I took mine out and promptly put it back again so "better" is subjective anyway.

Better than with the spring in. Its definitely just my opinion. My comparison is my GTI which I can feel the moment the clutch starts to engage. I struggled a lot with the FRS until I took the spring out and bled the clutch. Bleeding the clutch probably made the bigger difference though.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by leets4uc3

Better than with the spring in. Its definitely just my opinion. My comparison is my GTI which I can feel the moment the clutch starts to engage. I struggled a lot with the FRS until I took the spring out and bled the clutch. Bleeding the clutch probably made the bigger difference though.

Had you made changes to require bleeding the clutch?

[leets4uc3]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Had you made changes to require bleeding the clutch?

yupp.... motor swap and trans fluid. The clutch felt like garage when I bought the car though. It was impossible to get into first smooth. Pretty night and day. My friends BRZ we only took out the spring and that was it. It was still a better feel in my mind.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by leets4uc3

yupp.... motor swap and trans fluid. The clutch felt like garage when I bought the car though. It was impossible to get into first smooth. Pretty night and day. My friends BRZ we only took out the spring and that was it. It was still a better feel in my mind.

Just wondered why a bleed would have helped. All stock with no changes should not have air in the system to bleed. If things were changed then yes a bleed would help.

[leets4uc3]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Just wondered why a bleed would have helped. All stock with no changes should not have air in the system to bleed. If things were changed then yes a bleed would help.

Mine was not very stock and the previous owner was a jackass; he thought that's how it was supposed to be.


Stock like my friends car shouldn't need bleeding, but wouldn't hurt to check.


Here is the link the DIY thread if you are interested OP
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103157