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Old 05-22-2017, 10:57 AM   #29
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He announced his retirement himself. Unlike the rest of the speculation based on total misconceptions, personal bias, twisted logic and just outright ignorance in the industry this is a known fact. Much of what is said in this thread is just laughable.
Didn't realize that he announced it himself. Shame, gonna miss him.
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Didn't realize that he announced it himself. Shame, gonna miss him.
Yep. Check out his Facebook.

He was just one man from a whole team. Not a god.
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Yep. Check out his Facebook.
Not a god.
Um, okay, I never thought that.
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Um, okay, I never thought that.
But so many do. His name was so attached to the hype that the perception is that he singlehandedly built the car. He was more the front man to the team that did the actual work. His departure changes nothing.
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His departure changes nothing.
I hope not.
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Whose taking over for Tada?
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That's because it isn't a second generation, merely a face lift. The sales were already dying off and adding a new bumper and a few minor tweaks is not going to make sales sky rocket. With that said of course by investing in it they hoped the updates would help bring sales up but I think at best they can hope to simply try to maintain the current sales and hopefully prevent them from plummeting even further until either they release the second generation 86 or axe it altogether.
It was supposed to be a second generation on the same platform. An actual facelift happened back in middle '14. Of course, this is all a terminology issue and I agree that the changes were not in reality that much to name it a new generation. Basically, a try to shift to another group of buyers. At that time some of us had objections, because not many that owned the first cars would like to change. Anyway, this is all history now.

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Sorry, I forgot... I've heard it when I was at SEMA (last year) w ppl working closely w Toyota JP, but it was late night, eating and everyone had several drinks, couldn't really hear it well.
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Yep. Check out his Facebook.

Just checked now and I cannot find it.
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Just checked now and I cannot find it.
It is there someplace. Was a while back.
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Typically Toyota announces the next model year February through May but nothing new on the sports car side yet. I don't know if the new Supra will be a 2018 or 2019 but nothing on the 2018 86. Maybe a joint announcement of both?
If they announced the Supra, it would definitely not be a 2018.
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Yep. Check out his Facebook.

He was just one man from a whole team. Not a god.
OTOH, one man can steer a team. His greatest accomplishment was convincing Corporate to go ahead with the car. I don't believe the 86 would exist as it is without him.
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It was supposed to be a second generation on the same platform. An actual facelift happened back in middle '14. Of course, this is all a terminology issue and I agree that the changes were not in reality that much to name it a new generation. Basically, a try to shift to another group of buyers. At that time some of us had objections, because not many that owned the first cars would like to change. Anyway, this is all history now.


There was no facelift in 2014. 2017 was the minor model change.


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