Reverse is kind of hard to get into - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

pr086 · 11-28-2012, 08:09 PM

It feels like i have to put a lot of pressure and kind of force it into reverse. Anyone else?

Asphaltfrs1 · 11-28-2012, 08:11 PM

Yes same here. I usually release the clutch then depress it again. Most of the time it becomes easier. Also I let it warm up.

wheelhaus · 11-28-2012, 08:40 PM

Either let the car roll a bit or let the clutch out in neutral (as @Asphaltfrs1 mentioned) , I'm pretty sure the reverse gear does not have a synchro. Either of the above should respectively rotate the input shaft or the gear stack, which helps to line up the dog teeth and thus, engagement.

SVThis · 11-28-2012, 08:46 PM

Letting it warm a bit is about the only thing that really helps. I'm glad it's staying in the garage for winter. I will definitely change the fluid in the spring. This is one cold blooded tranny.

Don Ivey · 11-29-2012, 11:51 AM

Related to this, I just got my FR-S and the only complaint is 1st to 2nd, and 2nd to 3rd notchiness. I know others have complained about this, but just wondered if it goes away with break in. I have noticed rev matching helps, but I'm lazy and just want to shift (and I shift slowly). Other than that, can't wait to get to one thousand miles so I can let her scream.

Razz · 11-29-2012, 12:09 PM

It's suppose to be notchy

mrlewistan · 11-29-2012, 07:09 PM

I have no issue with it. But I always give the car a few minutes to warm up when the engine/exhaust quiets down

BuBlake · 11-29-2012, 07:13 PM

Mine shifts into every gear, including reverse, smooth as can be, just for contrast. I shift into reverse at least once per day to back out of the garage. Only fluid I have changed is the motor oil(To Mobile 1 0w-20) and have 4700+ miles.

My previous car was a 350z with 6-spd manual, which others complained about as well and I didn't, so I may just be used to a relatively touchy transmission or have a high tolerance.

LIKEABOSS · 11-29-2012, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BuBlake

Mine shifts into every gear, including reverse, smooth as can be, just for contrast. I shift into reverse at least once per day to back out of the garage. Only fluid I have changed is the motor oil(To Mobile 1 0w-20) and have 4700+ miles.

My previous car was a 350z with 6-spd manual, which others complained about as well and I didn't, so I may just be used to a relatively touchy transmission or have a high tolerance.

Have any blow 40 degree temps yet? When it's cold it's hard to shift into reverse.

PabloN · 11-29-2012, 07:50 PM

Think there have been posts about this before in cold weather. Here in the Midwest it's been approaching freezing & reverse is just about impossible until the car warms up. I started putting it in reverse when I park in the garage and leaving it there when I start up in the morning. There may be a little more wear on the clutch this way, I don't know...

BuBlake · 11-29-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LIKEABOSS

Have any blow 40 degree temps yet? When it's cold it's hard to shift into reverse.

Car is stored in a garage... Where I live it might reach 40 in there at the peak of winter.

SVThis · 11-29-2012, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuBlake

Mine shifts into every gear, including reverse, smooth as can be, just for contrast. I shift into reverse at least once per day to back out of the garage. Only fluid I have changed is the motor oil(To Mobile 1 0w-20) and have 4700+ miles.

My previous car was a 350z with 6-spd manual, which others complained about as well and I didn't, so I may just be used to a relatively touchy transmission or have a high tolerance.

Or you just may be lucky. I've owned a bunch of manual tranny cars and never had a problem getting into reverse when cold

pr086 · 11-29-2012, 09:36 PM

putting the clutch in and out dosn't seem to help, and letting it roll is rarely an option. i just have to force it in

Texas BRZ · 11-29-2012, 09:48 PM

Fortunately, slotting into reverse has not been an issue for myself.

Temperatures have dropped, and the overall notchiness is more present, but still not something for me to be bothered about.

Solid feeling / performing transmission, thus far.

11-28-2012, 08:09 PM	#1
pr086 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: fast Location: US Posts: 325 Thanks: 1 Thanked 26 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Reverse is kind of hard to get into It feels like i have to put a lot of pressure and kind of force it into reverse. Anyone else?

11-28-2012, 08:46 PM	#4
SVThis Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Scion FRS Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 185 Thanks: 39 Thanked 86 Times in 45 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Letting it warm a bit is about the only thing that really helps. I'm glad it's staying in the garage for winter. I will definitely change the fluid in the spring. This is one cold blooded tranny. __________________ We're not happy till you're not happy 2013 Scion FRS Whiteout 6MT SCCA RTR/Konis/RPF1's/Dunlop Z2's/Strano front bar/CG Lock/Crash camber bolts/JPM shift boot and Instrument panel cover.

11-29-2012, 11:51 AM	#5
Don Ivey Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: '13 FR-S Location: Smithfield, NC Posts: 133 Thanks: 3 Thanked 37 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Related to this, I just got my FR-S and the only complaint is 1st to 2nd, and 2nd to 3rd notchiness. I know others have complained about this, but just wondered if it goes away with break in. I have noticed rev matching helps, but I'm lazy and just want to shift (and I shift slowly). Other than that, can't wait to get to one thousand miles so I can let her scream. __________________ Don Ivey '13 FR-S (Hot Lava)

11-29-2012, 09:48 PM	#14
Texas BRZ Sports Car = Anti-Drug Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2014 Honda CBR600RR Location: Plano Posts: 917 Thanks: 371 Thanked 307 Times in 193 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Fortunately, slotting into reverse has not been an issue for myself. Temperatures have dropped, and the overall notchiness is more present, but still not something for me to be bothered about. Solid feeling / performing transmission, thus far. __________________ "Did you know that this car comes with 300 horsepower in its stock form? 200 from the engine, 50 in its chassis, and the final 50 within the driver who can make the most of it." Texas BRZ

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11-28-2012, 08:11 PM	#2
Asphaltfrs1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 asphalt fr-s Location: Los angeles Posts: 488 Thanks: 109 Thanked 125 Times in 88 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yes same here. I usually release the clutch then depress it again. Most of the time it becomes easier. Also I let it warm up.

11-28-2012, 08:40 PM	#3
wheelhaus Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ, 2020 KTM Super Duke 1290R Location: Denver Posts: 1,788 Thanks: 714 Thanked 1,141 Times in 624 Posts Mentioned: 49 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Either let the car roll a bit or let the clutch out in neutral (as @Asphaltfrs1 mentioned) , I'm pretty sure the reverse gear does not have a synchro. Either of the above should respectively rotate the input shaft or the gear stack, which helps to line up the dog teeth and thus, engagement.

11-29-2012, 12:09 PM	#6
Razz Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Fast Location: United States Posts: 480 Thanks: 64 Thanked 101 Times in 71 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's suppose to be notchy

11-29-2012, 07:50 PM	#10
PabloN Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S, M/T argento Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 133 Thanks: 109 Thanked 71 Times in 45 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Think there have been posts about this before in cold weather. Here in the Midwest it's been approaching freezing & reverse is just about impossible until the car warms up. I started putting it in reverse when I park in the garage and leaving it there when I start up in the morning. There may be a little more wear on the clutch this way, I don't know...

11-29-2012, 09:36 PM	#13
pr086 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: fast Location: US Posts: 325 Thanks: 1 Thanked 26 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	putting the clutch in and out dosn't seem to help, and letting it roll is rarely an option. i just have to force it in

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