valve spring issue?

[Xander_FRS]

Toyota is also issuing the recall in Canada.
I put in my VIN # on their recall page and it shows up as affected.

They also provide the attached notification.

[8RZ]

Whew, I'm good.


https://www.subaru.com/vehicle-recalls.html

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

How could it be that the first 2000 cars that rolled off the line are fine, but ones after that aren't?

They aren't. Mine is #274 (at least for the US Scion VINs) and its on the list.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Spuds

If it's 94 out of 400,000 that's .0235% (.0235 of 1%) by my calculator...

So 2-3 in 10k engines.

Well, remember that's the number that have been reported, which is likely through warranty work I would guess. If someone had the issue and had a 3rd party shop fix it for whatever reason (boosted, out of warranty, distrust of dealerships) it would not necessarily have been reported to Subaru to be in the count.

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

They aren't. Mine is #274 (at least for the US Scion VINs) and its on the list.

If yours is 00274, then it's NOT on the list. the range runs from 02002-10144. They excluded the first 2002 cars for some reason.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

If yours is 00274, then it's NOT on the list. the range runs from 02002-10144. They excluded the first 2002 cars for some reason.

I only checked the federal site, and it does show up there. I'll verify through the Toyota site.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

If yours is 00274, then it's NOT on the list. the range runs from 02002-10144. They excluded the first 2002 cars for some reason.

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I only checked the federal site, and it does show up there. I'll verify through the Toyota site.

Yep, shows up on the Toyota site too. Maybe they haven't gotten the filtering down correctly yet.

[HunterGreene]

Yup, I'm on the list. I at least have some confidence in my dealer due to the fact that I had the spark plugs replaced at the appropriate interval, and they had to lift the engine to get to them that time as well. So, in theory, they at least have that practice on my car, and its worked just fine since then (I'm almost at 80k and out of warranty at this point).

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

If yours is 00274, then it's NOT on the list. the range runs from 02002-10144. They excluded the first 2002 cars for some reason.

Believe the reports from NHTSA or Toyota/Subaru over the news.
Search Vin in
NHTSA https://vinrcl.safercar.gov/vin/vinLookup
Toyota (Canada) https://www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/my-toyota/recalls
Toyota (USA) https://www.toyota.com/recall
Subaru (Canada) Need to use the My Subaru app provided in the link https://www.subaru.ca/WebPage.aspx?W...ebPageID=21091
Subaru (USA) https://www.subaru.com/vehicle-recalls.html


Rely on these not date ranges, news reports, etc. since there could be gaps in the production where other parts were used.

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

And the other Subaru vehicles are a longer period.

"Toyota is recalling about 25,000 Scion FR-S cars manufactured between March 2012 and July 2013. The recalled Subaru vehicles were made between January 2012 and September 2013."

See the thing is for North American models MY14 manufacturing started in August 2013 (my car is 08/13 Chassis "B") and JDM MY14 manufacturing started September 2013.

In Japan the first MY is from March 2012 to September 2013, classified as Chassis "A".

My VIN is #600817 so I'm not sure if I'm part of the recall (hopefully not).

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Well, remember that's the number that have been reported, which is likely through warranty work I would guess. If someone had the issue and had a 3rd party shop fix it for whatever reason (boosted, out of warranty, distrust of dealerships) it would not necessarily have been reported to Subaru to be in the count.

Even if the number was 2, 3 or even 10 times higher it is still a very tiny percentage. My guess is that the quality people tested a bunch and found that batch is more likely to break not necessarily that they have or will break. That risk is obviously high enough for them to lose millions on though.

[JIM THEO]

Directly from horses mouth: https://www.toyota.co.jp/recall-search/dc/search

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Even if the number was 2, 3 or even 10 times higher it is still a very tiny percentage. My guess is that the quality people tested a bunch and found that batch is more likely to break not necessarily that they have or will break. That risk is obviously high enough for them to lose millions on though.

Good points, all around, and yeah you are probably right on the QC check that resulted in the recall.

In the end, I'll wait until I get the recall notice and then decide. With almost 140K miles on the car, I'm not too worried about it, but I'm also not dealer adverse as some folks are, so it doesn't bother me to have the work done.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by krayzie

See the thing is for North American models MY14 manufacturing started in August 2013 (my car is 08/13 Chassis "B") and JDM MY14 manufacturing started September 2013.

In Japan the first MY is from March 2012 to September 2013, classified as Chassis "A".

My VIN is #600817 so I'm not sure if I'm part of the recall (hopefully not).

Let's keep in mind that the FRS/BRZs compose less than 20% of this total recall. The Forester, Outback and Impreza numbers are officially stated as around 320,000 with some of the press pushing it as far as a possible million. The production dates for all of these may fit in a range but the actual issue could vary from model to model.


I linked the Canadian recall site above.