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kEnYUnoT · 12-24-2015, 03:00 AM

I've had my '15 BRZ for about 4 months now. After riding with my friend in his STI I can definitely say that I want some more power. In my current situation I don't want to spend too much so I don't really know if FI is a good way to achieve this. I don't want my motor to blow and then need to spend much more on rebuilding it. So far I've looked at the SPD Stage 1 Turbo with 10psi. I also want to do E85 for the extra power.

I'm mostly focused on reliability and speed. I definitely want to go fast but I don't want every drive to be a risk.

I'm fairly new to cars and so if I get any parts I would want to install them myself to get some experience.

swarb · 12-24-2015, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kEnYUnoT

I've had my '15 BRZ for about 4 months now. After riding with my friend in his STI I can definitely say that I want some more power. In my current situation I don't want to spend too much so I don't really know if FI is a good way to achieve this. I don't want my motor to blow and then need to spend much more on rebuilding it. So far I've looked at the SPD Stage 1 Turbo with 10psi. I also want to do E85 for the extra power.

I'm mostly focused on reliability and speed. I definitely want to go fast but I don't want every drive to be a risk.

I'm fairly new to cars and so if I get any parts I would want to install them myself to get some experience.

Do more reading.
Cheap, Fast, Reliable. Pick two.
And then I ask, what is your budget?

SleepingPanda · 12-24-2015, 04:27 AM

Why not a supercharger? You can easily achieve 300whp on 93. And even more on e85. Which is substantial in this car. It may not sound like much to people obsessed with dyno numbers. But It'll toast an sti.

Plus you don't need to worry about someday your boost controller malfunctioning and suddenly you're at 15 psi instead of 10.

I plan on going with the edelbrock supercharger myself. Plenty of low end power. Very reliable. 300-350whp is very possible especially on e85.

Summerwolf · 12-24-2015, 07:28 AM

Save for forced induction. It is really the only thing that truly makes a difference. Having said that to get the most out of FI you'll need the supporting mods first so.... some type of tuner and a header will get you headed in the right direction. Just make a plan for yourself and don't deviate from that, otherwise you'll wind up buying parts that don't fit and have to go rebuy stuff.

Tcoat · 12-24-2015, 10:46 AM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96158

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kEnYUnoT · 12-24-2015, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarb

Do more reading.
Cheap, Fast, Reliable. Pick two.
And then I ask, what is your budget?

I would prefer cheap and reliable, my budget is around 6k. My only concern about speed is being able to outrun american muscle (v6), which should be enough to make me happy.

Summerwolf · 12-24-2015, 02:59 PM

Not. The. Muscle. Car. Thing. Again.

swarb · 12-24-2015, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kEnYUnoT

I would prefer cheap and reliable, my budget is around 6k. My only concern about speed is being able to outrun american muscle (v6), which should be enough to make me happy.

American muscle is V8.
Reliable would be a lower power carb tune. Jackson racing, Edelbrock(36k warranty* read the details).
Add an oil cooler at ~500
Jackson is ~5k
Edelbrock ~5400

You will probably need better brakes and tires.

kEnYUnoT · 12-24-2015, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by new2subaru

A major contradiction here and it isn't going to happen on a budget like yours.

In all seriousness, why did you buy this car?

I'm new as well, but knew exactly what the car would and would not do when I purchased it.

If I wanted to outrun a muscle car I wouldn't have purchased it. It can be done but why would I pick this chassis? There are far better platforms for that. I would want a heavier chassis for starters.

I bought the car for the handling. I know it's not meant to go fast in a straight line but I just want to have some more power. The only reason I say I want to outrun a muscle car is because that is a good baseline. By muscle car I don't mean a v8 but rather just some common v6 mustang.

Teseo · 12-24-2015, 03:39 PM

I vote for weight reduction

SmartedPanda · 12-24-2015, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarb

Do more reading.
Cheap, Fast, Reliable. Pick two.
And then I ask, what is your budget?

Pick 2.
You picked the wrong car if you wanna drag. Or you better have a bigger budget.
Feel free to ask specifics though! Good luck.

NLSP · 12-24-2015, 04:30 PM

If it's the V6 pony cars you're worried about, forced induction isn't even necessary in my opinion. And force inducing an otherwise stock car would make it imbalanced. If your budget is $6k, you could save some money and get a quality header, ECU tune, and a shorter final drive. Put the remaining funds towards quality suspension, sticky tires, and performance brake pads. You'll keep up in the straights and absolutely destroy them in the corners.

kEnYUnoT · 12-24-2015, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NLSP

If it's the V6 pony cars you're worried about, forced induction isn't even necessary in my opinion. And force inducing an otherwise stock car would make it imbalanced. If your budget is $6k, you could save some money and get a quality header, ECU tune, and a shorter final drive. Put the remaining funds towards quality suspension, sticky tires, and performance brake pads. You'll keep up in the straights and absolutely destroy them in the corners.

I know FI isn't necessary it's just that after riding in an sti, I feel like I'm missing out on a lot of fun with the turbo.

I planned to stay NA and just get E85 but I don't know if that's enough to beat some ponies.

LOLS2K · 12-24-2015, 04:43 PM

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SleepingPanda Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Drives: 2016 BRZ Hyper.Blue Location: Beverly MA Posts: 113 Thanks: 59 Thanked 131 Times in 47 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Why not a supercharger? You can easily achieve 300whp on 93. And even more on e85. Which is substantial in this car. It may not sound like much to people obsessed with dyno numbers. But It'll toast an sti. Plus you don't need to worry about someday your boost controller malfunctioning and suddenly you're at 15 psi instead of 10. I plan on going with the edelbrock supercharger myself. Plenty of low end power. Very reliable. 300-350whp is very possible especially on e85.

12-24-2015, 07:28 AM	#4
Summerwolf Panda Trueno Join Date: Jan 2015 Drives: No twin now. Location: North Indiana Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 2,113 Thanked 2,407 Times in 1,332 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Save for forced induction. It is really the only thing that truly makes a difference. Having said that to get the most out of FI you'll need the supporting mods first so.... some type of tuner and a header will get you headed in the right direction. Just make a plan for yourself and don't deviate from that, otherwise you'll wind up buying parts that don't fit and have to go rebuy stuff.

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Summerwolf Panda Trueno Join Date: Jan 2015 Drives: No twin now. Location: North Indiana Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 2,113 Thanked 2,407 Times in 1,332 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Not. The. Muscle. Car. Thing. Again.

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NLSP Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2014 Ultramarine FR-S Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 517 Thanks: 414 Thanked 543 Times in 244 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If it's the V6 pony cars you're worried about, forced induction isn't even necessary in my opinion. And force inducing an otherwise stock car would make it imbalanced. If your budget is $6k, you could save some money and get a quality header, ECU tune, and a shorter final drive. Put the remaining funds towards quality suspension, sticky tires, and performance brake pads. You'll keep up in the straights and absolutely destroy them in the corners.

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