BRZ/FR-S Strut Tower Brace - Any Interest? - Page 16 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

2point0 · 05-06-2013, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Resistance is futile.
Put me on the list.

You have been assimilated.

kwood9000 · 05-06-2013, 10:32 PM

Okay, I'm interested...add me to the list.

GrimmSpeed · 05-07-2013, 01:09 PM

Thanks for the continuing support, dudes and dudettes!

We've been a little short on the pics, but we've been hard at work. @LeeMaster swung by this morning for some 3D scanning. We've found that these cars tend to have some decent variation in chassis geometry from car to car and we want to make sure that our bar leaves just enough clearance for all cars, but not so much that it's fit is sloppy. Here's a few pictures that I snapped; I'm sure Chase will chime in with some details and his findings.

Matt
Engineering

OrbitalEllipses · 05-07-2013, 01:33 PM

There's some fairly wide tolerances on this car. Ask me how I know!

GrimmSpeed · 05-07-2013, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

There's some fairly wide tolerances on this car. Ask me how I know!

Did you buy parts from someone that didn't do their homework?

Matt
Engineering

2point0 · 05-07-2013, 01:37 PM

hot damn those wheels look a billion times better in white. or even just one solid color, period. too bad you can't just paint 'em wider!

hard to tell for sure, is that bar clearing the AC lines without rubbing?

oh...and WTF is that giant contraption the guy is using at the strut tops?

OrbitalEllipses · 05-07-2013, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimmSpeed

Did you buy parts from someone that didn't do their homework?

Matt
Engineering

They did their homework and made it right, but regardless...

GrimmSpeed · 05-07-2013, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2point0

hot damn those wheels look a billion times better in white. or even just one solid color, period. too bad you can't just paint 'em wider!

hard to tell for sure, is that bar clearing the AC lines without rubbing?

oh...and WTF is that giant contraption the guy is using at the strut tops?

For the record, that's still just one of our 3d printed designs. However, it doesn't clear the AC line without rubbing, I think I went into this not long ago but I can paraphrase again. We can't make the bracket lower, or hang below the mounting points because the potential gusseting becomes insufficient, and the bracket isn't strong enough. And if we go higher to clear the AC line we run into the exact same problem. We're limited by material thickness due to stud length, so the strength has to come from the design of the bracket itself. So we've decided we'll make a compromise here, and come up with a solution to the contact between the bar and the AC line.

That giant contraption is our Faro arm. Using that and a software package I am able to great an accurate digital model of whatever I want. In this instance I was using it to map out the studs and their mounting location to compare it to our vehicle. I'll scan a few more cars to get an idea of the variance from car to car, which will let me fine tune the design so it fits EVERYONE'S car perfectly.

Chase
Engineering

2point0 · 05-07-2013, 02:38 PM

Neat! I want one...haha

Thanks for the clarification. I'm sure some spiral loom over the AC lines would be sufficient to protect it. I bet I even have some in a bin somewhere.

SkAsphalt · 05-07-2013, 03:06 PM

I think I said I am interested already...but I am interested. It reduces NVH? I am in

Captain Snooze · 05-07-2013, 05:48 PM

I prefer the looks of this
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The first bar appears to sit lower.

LeeMaster · 05-07-2013, 06:04 PM

I had a great time at the GrimmSpeed shop today and checking out what they do. These guys are a bunch of cool and awesome people and are very knowledgeable in what they do, as we all know. I am not an expert on this subject, but I am no stranger when it comes to testing any real product. After talking to them personally today, I cannot wait for the final product to be released.

Shankenstein · 05-07-2013, 10:15 PM

I was at the Offshore Technology Conference, and FARO had a booth. I mentioned that some crazy car guys were using their products to develop high-end aftermarket automotive components. They thought that was pretty cool.

Most of their products are for high-$$$ quality assurance and reverse engineering. The kind of setup where you bolt it to a few tons of granite and charge by the minute.

Nothing to add here. Keep up the good work!

OICU812 · 05-08-2013, 12:03 AM

I like it, please make option in "red"

Any eta on public sale release??

05-07-2013, 01:09 PM	#213
GrimmSpeed Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: '13 BRZ, '12 WRX Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,676 Thanks: 271 Thanked 3,550 Times in 885 Posts Mentioned: 218 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	Thanks for the continuing support, dudes and dudettes! We've been a little short on the pics, but we've been hard at work. @LeeMaster swung by this morning for some 3D scanning. We've found that these cars tend to have some decent variation in chassis geometry from car to car and we want to make sure that our bar leaves just enough clearance for all cars, but not so much that it's fit is sloppy. Here's a few pictures that I snapped; I'm sure Chase will chime in with some details and his findings. Matt Engineering Last edited by GrimmSpeed; 05-07-2013 at 01:33 PM.

05-07-2013, 05:48 PM	#221
Captain Snooze Because compromise ® Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Red Herring Location: australia Posts: 7,723 Thanks: 3,993 Thanked 9,346 Times in 4,127 Posts Mentioned: 60 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I prefer the looks of this over this The first bar appears to sit lower.

05-07-2013, 06:04 PM	#222
LeeMaster Red wine Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Subaru BRZ(R.I.P) Location: Denied Posts: 1,176 Thanks: 1,268 Thanked 342 Times in 240 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I had a great time at the GrimmSpeed shop today and checking out what they do. These guys are a bunch of cool and awesome people and are very knowledgeable in what they do, as we all know. I am not an expert on this subject, but I am no stranger when it comes to testing any real product. After talking to them personally today, I cannot wait for the final product to be released. __________________

05-07-2013, 10:15 PM	#223
Shankenstein Frosty Carrot Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: The Atomic Carrot Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 513 Thanks: 272 Thanked 428 Times in 199 Posts Mentioned: 19 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I was at the Offshore Technology Conference, and FARO had a booth. I mentioned that some crazy car guys were using their products to develop high-end aftermarket automotive components. They thought that was pretty cool. Most of their products are for high-$$$ quality assurance and reverse engineering. The kind of setup where you bolt it to a few tons of granite and charge by the minute. Nothing to add here. Keep up the good work! __________________ If you think you're nerd enough, join in the discussions about Suspension and Aerodynamic modelling! Wall of Fame - JDL Auto Design, Raceseng, Vishnu Tuning, Penske Shocks, Nameless, Perrin, RaceComp Engineering, Essex/AP Racing, Verus, RacerX Wall of Shame - aFe Takeda, Wilwood, FA20Club

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