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Old 04-05-2014, 12:34 AM   #1
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PSA: ACT vs EXEDY street clutches

I'm going to make this short..


Avoid the ACT street clutch unless you want a non-drivable car and a frown on your face.


Replace with the EXEDY street clutch if you want to smile again.


The end.

Edited: For those not familiar with my build.. I put in an ACT clutch last year after I went FI. ACT full disc street clutch. Everything got replaced. Flywheel, disc, plate, bearing, etc. From the beginning I begin experiencing issues getting the car into gear (1st) from a stop. The clutch itself was holding the power and I was able to shift in and out of gear once I got moving. When the trans was cold, the issue masked itself. Once I reached operating temp, it came back. I tried the clutch pedal adjustment, swapping over to a SS clutch line, swapping fluids, etc to no avail. Eventually, the problem kept getting worse and worse as time progressed. I never tried to force it in gear when it wouldn't go. Instead I would either pump the clutch or try going into another gear before attempting 1st again, which would usually work. As of last month, the problem got so bad that I couldn't actually drive the car with any confidence once it reached operating temp. People honking because I'm struggling trying to get it in gear, etc. I really thought the transmission was toast (specifically 1st gear synchro).

I made the decision to have PRE drop the trans and inspect the ACT assembly a few weeks ago. Here is what they found: nothing. It was in great condition. Nothing wrong with the PP, clutch disc, flywheel, bearing. It all looked fine. I had done quite a bit of research on ACT clutches at this point and found that there was a high incidence of issues with the PP. I also got tips from others on diff platforms with similar problems on their ACT clutches. At this point, I made a decision to try the EXEDY full disc street clutch (stage 1). It also came with everything net new. After putting it in and no other variables in the equation, I can safely say that the problems are gone! The EXEDY holds the power just as well as the ACT and it shifts like butter. I also went with the Pentosin MTF2 trans fluid that I was previously running.

The next step is for me to take this up with ACT and see how well their customer service ranks. I don't have high hopes. I've been fucked so many times by various vendors in the 86 community. The Portland regulars who know me have heard some of the stories.

My recommendation is to avoid ACT. It's not worth the potential issues. EXEDY is the OE manufacturer and they build a damn good clutch. I hope to upgrade to their twin disc in the near future.

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Or don't be a non-driving fuck?
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Or don't be a non-driving fuck?

Are you serious man?
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Are you serious man?
Yes. My post was as informative as yours. Racecar?
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Old 04-05-2014, 02:44 AM   #5
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Yes. My post was as informative as yours. Racecar?

Look. I don't know who you are or what your problem is. This will be the last time I respond to you.
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Look. I don't know who you are or what your problem is. This will be the last time I respond to you.
OK by me, but what was your OP about? I thought the court said you could not talk about your spouse abuse.
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It looks like someone left the bar cranky last night.

Evan, could you possibly make your post a little more informative?
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Wow,

Evan it seemed right to the point to me?
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Avoid the ACT street clutch if you want a non-drivable car and a frown on your face.


Replace with the EXEDY street clutch if you want to smile again.


The end.
Avoid it if I want a non-drivable car...

Which means if I want a drivable car, I'll go with an ACT clutch. I feel like the message you were trying to convey was the opposite of what you said...
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