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Old 02-11-2019, 08:34 PM   #4005
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A 245/35 does not fit a 18x8 very well. The tire is to wide which kills your steering feel. It also feels like it folds over on hard cornering. I hated it when I had them. IMO, it is totally not what you want. If you want a wider tire, get wider wheels. (I am running 18x9's front and rear now)


I mean a 235/40 could work. Still, I highly suggest getting 225/40 for front and rear. Don't go staggered.


I am saying this because of the many different staggered setups I had. None of them were as good as a square setup.


Bought 4 used pirelli p7 and my 20mm hub centric spacers to convert to the 5x112 pattern. Once they're all mounted up I'll post up pics. No suspension mods as of yet just camber bolts


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Depends on the exact tire. Tires can vary in width quite a bit. But, I think 10mm will work.
Leonardo,

Based on the wheels directory for a 9" wide rim to achieve perfect flush I'd need a wheel with +48 offset on the front and +38 on the rear (dropped 1").

Now... My wheels are +42, that means that with a 5mm spacer in the front I'll get to +47 and be close enough ok being flush? But then the rear needed +38 and I have +42?Something is not adding up cause you used 10mm+ spacers to achieve flushness
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Based on the wheels directory for a 9" wide rim to achieve perfect flush I'd need a wheel with +48 offset on the front and +38 on the rear (dropped 1").

Now... My wheels are +42, that means that with a 5mm spacer in the front I'll get to +47 and be close enough ok being flush? But then the rear needed +38 and I have +42?Something is not adding up cause you used 10mm+ spacers to achieve flushness

That's not how offset works. Also, the wheel directory does not take into account that most people want a bit of negative camber.


A 9" wheel that is +48 offset requires coilovers to fit.


A 9" +45 wheel is what I would consider the inner limit. Meaning it will hit the spring perch. A 9" +42 wheel generally clears the spring perch. (depending on car and tire)


A spacer adds distance between the spring perch and the wheel/tire. Negative camber decreases the distance between the wheel/tire and spring perch.


I have 18x9 +42 wheels. I have added 12mm front and 15mm rear spacers. This makes my offsets +30 front and +27 rear.


For positive offsets; you subtract the spacer. A +42 wheel with a 5mm spacer makes it essentially a +37 wheel.


A 1" drop will net you -1.5 to -2 rear natural camber. My natural camber from 1" drop springs was -1.8 left and -2.2 right. This didn't cause any uneven tire wear; I drove it 65,000 miles this way. LCA will fix this issue if you want.


You will need some front camber to at least match the rear. Camber bolts are around $20 and easy to install. They are good for about -1.5. This is good for DD. A 1" drop, 18x9 +42 wheels with a 10mm spacer, and a set of camber bolts will look good.




You may not need spacers at all, depending on what you consider flush and how wide of a tire you choose. The wheel directory is a great resource; I look through it all the time.





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Leonardo, I wish you were in FL so I can pay you a few beers. What's LCA? For 10mm spacers I'll need longer studs right?

I'll get those camber bolts. Tire I'll use will be 245/30/18

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Leonardo, I wish you were in FL so I can pay you a few beers. What's LCA? For 10mm spacers I'll need longer studs right?

I'll get those camber bolts. Tire I'll use will be 245/30/18

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LCA = Lower Control Arm. It will help you fix your rear camber as there is no camber adjustment on these cars. And yes with 10mm spacer you most likely will need to run extended studs.
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Leonardo, I wish you were in FL so I can pay you a few beers. What's LCA? For 10mm spacers I'll need longer studs right?

I'll get those camber bolts. Tire I'll use will be 245/30/18

Thanks a million man!!!


Thanks man! I would take you up on that if I was closer! But, Florida is a bit of a drive from Oregon... LOL


LCA = Lower Control Arms.
Good lower price LCA - not 100% necessary, but really nice to dial everything in.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SPC-Adjusta...MWZo:rk:1:pf:0


Yes, extended studs are needed. I suggest these.
https://www.rallysportdirect.com/par...l-studs-5-pack


Cam bolts
https://www.ebay.com/itm/81305-SPC-P...S!-1:rk:1:pf:0




These spacers are a great deal!


https://www.ebay.com/itm/4pcs-12mm-5...!-1:rk:15:pf:0




I have 245/35/18's. They are stock diameter and fit nicely on a 18x9. This is the size I would suggest.




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Thanks man! I would take you up on that if I was closer! But, Florida is a bit of a drive from Oregon... LOL


LCA = Lower Control Arms.
Good lower price LCA - not 100% necessary, but really nice to dial everything in.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SPC-Adjusta...MWZo:rk:1:pf:0


Yes, extended studs are needed. I suggest these.
https://www.rallysportdirect.com/par...l-studs-5-pack


Cam bolts
https://www.ebay.com/itm/81305-SPC-P...S!-1:rk:1:pf:0




These spacers are a great deal!


https://www.ebay.com/itm/4pcs-12mm-5...!-1:rk:15:pf:0




I have 245/35/18's. They are stock diameter and fit nicely on a 18x9. This is the size I would suggest.




Thanks again for the kind words!


Hey Leonardo, my hubcentric conversion spacers came today and my wheels look good on em. However, how can I verify they are hub centric? There is a lip that goes on the hub, but it still moves around a bit. I'm guessing when I throw on the lug nuts it came with it will center it and prevent movement?


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Hey Leonardo, my hubcentric conversion spacers came today and my wheels look good on em. However, how can I verify they are hub centric? There is a lip that goes on the hub, but it still moves around a bit. I'm guessing when I throw on the lug nuts it came with it will center it and prevent movement?


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Cool post some pics of what your wheels look like on your ride! What spacer/adaptors did you get?



Did you order spacers with a 56.1 hub bore? If they are 56.1, they should slide on the hub with almost no side to side movement at all.


If you bought a different size, like with a hub bore of 57.1, they would possibly need hubcentric rings like these...
https://www.amazon.com/Hubcentric-Ri.../dp/B01N2M92QP


Or figure out the ID of the wheel adaptor and get ones that fit them. I can help if you can't figure it out.
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Cool post some pics of what your wheels look like on your ride! What spacer/adaptors did you get?







Did you order spacers with a 56.1 hub bore? If they are 56.1, they should slide on the hub with almost no side to side movement at all.





If you bought a different size, like with a hub bore of 57.1, they would possibly need hubcentric rings like these...

https://www.amazon.com/Hubcentric-Ri.../dp/B01N2M92QP





Or figure out the ID of the wheel adaptor and get ones that fit them. I can help if you can't figure it out.


I got 56.1mm. It's very minimal play and the lug nuts it came with are like a cone on the side that touches the spacer so I assume once all 5 are on it will center and be good. My sparcos are tireless, FedEx delayed shipping should come tomorrow, pics then till then I gotta replace 10 studs on the rear haha


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I got 56.1mm. It's very minimal play and the lug nuts it came with are like a cone on the side that touches the spacer so I assume once all 5 are on it will center and be good. My sparcos are tireless, FedEx delayed shipping should come tomorrow, pics then till then I gotta replace 10 studs on the rear haha


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Cool, 56.1 is the correct size. I think you should be good. THe studs on the rear are a bit harder because you have to remove the hub. If you don't have a 32mm axle nut socket, you will need one. (I had to run to autozone in the middle of my project)


Hopefully the install on the rear goes smoothly and you get your tires soon. I look forward to seeing some pics!
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Cool, 56.1 is the correct size. I think you should be good. THe studs on the rear are a bit harder because you have to remove the hub. If you don't have a 32mm axle nut socket, you will need one. (I had to run to autozone in the middle of my project)





Hopefully the install on the rear goes smoothly and you get your tires soon. I look forward to seeing some pics!


How are you doing it? I got all of em off without taking the hub off and have got them back on numerous times. They keep stripping and breaking so I'm doing all 10


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Ok, my bad I was thinking of 50mm extended in the rear. If your extended studs are OEM length (or only 5mm longer) you can install them without removing the rear hub.
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Ok, my bad I was thinking of 50mm extended in the rear. If your extended studs are OEM length (or only 5mm longer) you can install them without removing the rear hub.


I got 10 dorman ones for now from autozone


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Ok, my bad I was thinking of 50mm extended in the rear. If your extended studs are OEM length (or only 5mm longer) you can install them without removing the rear hub.


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