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And that is just the ones that start the ball rolling. All the others that simply parrot the bull by saying "according to madeupautocrap.com the ..." are regurgitating that poop. They aren't even bright enough to make up their own poop.
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I feel like if if this car was 400hp out of the box,no one would complain about the price.I know that people will tune it and squeeze more power out of it,but anyone that thinks this motor will do what the 2JZ was able to do might be a tad bit more that optimistic,and that's where the value of the Mark IV is,even if it's $60k+ in today's money. |
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Eh the more that get made, the more that get wrecked, the more I can buy to rebuild.
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Re: the 370Z. It’s a solid vehicle, but definitely doesn’t have the interior refinements of a 2019, simply because it’s pretty much still a car built in 2009. I do love the new Nismo’s and seriously considered one before picking up my tS, but I wouldn’t be surprised that when/if Nissan comes out with a new Z, if it won’t see similar pricing, or at least a decent price hike. But hey, we all have our opinions of its price, what’s worth it or not, etc. None of us are right or wrong, it’s just what is important to the individual. Hell, people think getting the tS was stupid, I say hogwash to that, I love my car and it’s worth every stupid penny I’ve dumped into it! Last edited by J1Avs; 02-06-2019 at 11:24 AM. |
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Much like the 86 people want a whole shopping list of things for half the price it costs to make the car and then get all indigent because they feel they are being ripped off at the actual price. This of course leads to poor comparisons in order to support their belief.
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I would love to believe the new Supra is a better car than an ancient 370z. In every way. Even without a manual.
It will be interesting to see what happens when they start actually appearing. Anyways, 2nd gen 86? No interest here. Just another car the internet will pan and "enthusiasts" will despise. |
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Planning to drive my 1st gen 86 until 200k miles
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Wow it's amazing how all threads morph into a "Supra" thread. I know that the 2nd gen 86 pic is an independent rendering. It was just that it was the first time I saw it and could not believe how incredibly ugly it was to my eyes. I in no way was insinuating that I thought this was the future of the twins. I would be open to trading my car early if the next gen has the FA24 turbo but not if it looked like that. Just my story and I'm sticking to it
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The Supra was relevant to the conversation not as a comparison but by the clear statement that they don't want to have each model cross over each other. That pretty much excludes a big HP boost for the 86. That said if they go with the new engine do not expect the next gen 86 to be much like the current one. It very well could look like one of the fantasy renders.
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Are the rendered vents functional?
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Ultimately,the only reason why there aren't any wrong answers is because those cars that are "overpriced" for the performance are still getting made and enough people are buying them. I guess the market will always determine what's worth it or not. So the only reason that you aren't interested in a 2nd gen 86 is because of what the internet might say about it? |
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Meanwhile, here's a leaked photo of the second generation BRZ "Skorpion" concept, set to go into production when Toyota separates from Subaru:
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