Need Transmission Upgrades for Turbo? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Admired · 10-16-2013, 11:41 AM

I currently have an A/T and have a FA20CLub Turbo kit on the way with fuel pump and 540cc injectors and 60 Trim turbo. I talked with my local shop about installation and they were concerned with the fact that I wasn't getting clutch or flywheel upgrades. For those of you with Turbos more specifically A/T FT86's, have you done anything to your transmission for Turbo installations?

ft_sjo · 10-16-2013, 11:53 AM

I'd find another shop. This one sound like Walmart.

Admired · 10-16-2013, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ft_sjo

I'd find another shop. This one sound like Walmart.

Haha, they are top quality shop so I don't think so, they are just looking out for my car. So I assume I don't need tranny upgrades until about 400+ WHP?

Ross · 10-16-2013, 12:09 PM

Currently there have been very few testers of the automatic transmissions. P&L has made good power with there car and I have not heard about any issues as of yet. From my understanding that car has been enjoyed for a while now. I personally recommend at least a trans cooler as you will be adding additional strain which in turn produces heat. There has been no testing on that thought process with this transmission yet either. Waiting on a turbo kit to get here for one of my customers and we will be installing a trans cooler for his.

rusty959 · 10-16-2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Admired

Haha, they are top quality shop so I don't think so, they are just looking out for my car. So I assume I don't need tranny upgrades until about 400+ WHP?

They aren't top quality if they mention a clutch around an automatic transmission.

SloS14 · 10-16-2013, 12:28 PM

I would be more concerned with your apex seals.

jamesm · 10-16-2013, 12:29 PM

have you broken your transmission? if not, you don't need tranny upgrades. no need to go hunting dragons to slay / throw money at.

Admired · 10-16-2013, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SloS14

I would be more concerned with your apex seals.

What are apex seals, where are they located and why should I be concerned?

jamesm · 10-16-2013, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Admired

What are apex seals, where are they located and why should I be concerned?

he's trolling you. piston engines don't have apex seals, same as automatic transmissions don't have clutches.

Ross · 10-16-2013, 01:00 PM

Automatic transmissions do have clutch packs (just being a trolling ****, I know this is not what you are referring to), apex seals are used in a rotary engine.

Hawaiian · 10-16-2013, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross

Currently there have been very few testers of the automatic transmissions. P&L has made good power with there car and I have not heard about any issues as of yet. From my understanding that car has been enjoyed for a while now. I personally recommend at least a trans cooler as you will be adding additional strain which in turn produces heat. There has been no testing on that thought process with this transmission yet either. Waiting on a turbo kit to get here for one of my customers and we will be installing a trans cooler for his.

Paul @ P&L developed a trans cooler for the shop AT and it runs much better.

Ross · 10-16-2013, 01:52 PM

Thank you Hawaiian, I felt one would be necessary but had not seen testing that proved my thought process yet.

ft_sjo · 10-16-2013, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Admired

Haha, they are top quality shop so I don't think so, they are just looking out for my car. So I assume I don't need tranny upgrades until about 400+ WHP?

If you have such blind faith then it doesn't matter what any of us say, you have already made your mind up.

BRZPDX · 10-16-2013, 05:30 PM

AT coolers and good AT fluids (I use redline) should be good. Like someone said here, I'd save a back up fund for when the tranny does decide to blow up.

I'd say the people going FI right now is still in phase 1, and they are working out alot of the kinks regarding tune/boost/supporting mods etc., so a lot of it is still unknown, especially the longevity of OEM parts.

10-16-2013, 11:41 AM	#1
Admired Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Location: GA Posts: 248 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Need Transmission Upgrades for Turbo? I currently have an A/T and have a FA20CLub Turbo kit on the way with fuel pump and 540cc injectors and 60 Trim turbo. I talked with my local shop about installation and they were concerned with the fact that I wasn't getting clutch or flywheel upgrades. For those of you with Turbos more specifically A/T FT86's, have you done anything to your transmission for Turbo installations?

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ft_sjo Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: GT86 Location: The Motherland Posts: 1,398 Thanks: 140 Thanked 473 Times in 271 Posts Mentioned: 22 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'd find another shop. This one sound like Walmart.

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Ross Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 85 corolla gts Location: Chesapeake , Va Posts: 361 Thanks: 17 Thanked 177 Times in 110 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Currently there have been very few testers of the automatic transmissions. P&L has made good power with there car and I have not heard about any issues as of yet. From my understanding that car has been enjoyed for a while now. I personally recommend at least a trans cooler as you will be adding additional strain which in turn produces heat. There has been no testing on that thought process with this transmission yet either. Waiting on a turbo kit to get here for one of my customers and we will be installing a trans cooler for his.

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SloS14 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S whiteout Location: United States Posts: 726 Thanks: 381 Thanked 652 Times in 256 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I would be more concerned with your apex seals.

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jamesm Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,929 Thanks: 1,166 Thanked 2,293 Times in 1,180 Posts Mentioned: 313 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	have you broken your transmission? if not, you don't need tranny upgrades. no need to go hunting dragons to slay / throw money at.

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Ross Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 85 corolla gts Location: Chesapeake , Va Posts: 361 Thanks: 17 Thanked 177 Times in 110 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Automatic transmissions do have clutch packs (just being a trolling ****, I know this is not what you are referring to), apex seals are used in a rotary engine.

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Ross Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 85 corolla gts Location: Chesapeake , Va Posts: 361 Thanks: 17 Thanked 177 Times in 110 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thank you Hawaiian, I felt one would be necessary but had not seen testing that proved my thought process yet.

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