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Old 09-10-2019, 10:01 PM   #141
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Where would you say most of the large unexpected costs came from?

If you were to do it again, how much cheaper do you think you could do it the second time around?

What do you think has been the single most difficult task in the project?
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Where would you say most of the large unexpected costs came from?
Answer: Definitely the Motec ECU and the engine wiring harness. Then after that all the other aftermarket stuff I had to go with for my power goals (single turbo, built head, better trans, diff, axles, etc)

If you were to do it again, how much cheaper do you think you could do it the second time around?
Answer: Maybe save myself a grand total of $3,000? That's if I went with a Haltech or ECU Masters and then other tidbits that I just had t do twice over because this was my first time around.

What do you think has been the single most difficult task in the project?
Answer: Definitely clearancing the trans tunnel and fitting the engine and trans. I consider those all part of 1 grand total task. Runner up to this would definitely be random BS. Examples: parts plain old not fitting, having to custom make certain things because not every part is available for these swaps, dealing with fitting an aftermarket intake manifold, etc.

I'm a pretty decent mechanic and very knowledgeable in the aftermarket industry. Sadly, there isn't a really huge direction that I could have gone in any aspect of this experience that would have made a big difference. If anything, it could have been MORE expensive in certain aspects. I'm not entirely satisfied with my coolant lines to the heater core and a few other small things but i'm making it work for now. There's a lot of things that could have been "cleaner" if I had spent more money.
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Where would you say most of the large unexpected costs came from?
Answer: Definitely the Motec ECU and the engine wiring harness. Then after that all the other aftermarket stuff I had to go with for my power goals (single turbo, built head, better trans, diff, axles, etc)

If you were to do it again, how much cheaper do you think you could do it the second time around?
Answer: Maybe save myself a grand total of $3,000? That's if I went with a Haltech or ECU Masters and then other tidbits that I just had t do twice over because this was my first time around.

What do you think has been the single most difficult task in the project?
Answer: Definitely clearancing the trans tunnel and fitting the engine and trans. I consider those all part of 1 grand total task. Runner up to this would definitely be random BS. Examples: parts plain old not fitting, having to custom make certain things because not every part is available for these swaps, dealing with fitting an aftermarket intake manifold, etc.

I'm a pretty decent mechanic and very knowledgeable in the aftermarket industry. Sadly, there isn't a really huge direction that I could have gone in any aspect of this experience that would have made a big difference. If anything, it could have been MORE expensive in certain aspects. I'm not entirely satisfied with my coolant lines to the heater core and a few other small things but i'm making it work for now. There's a lot of things that could have been "cleaner" if I had spent more money.
This is kinda where I'm at. If I did it again, identically, I couldn't really save a while lot. Maybe a couple Grand. But I felt the transmission tunnel work wasn't that bad. Maybe the transmissions are differently shaped. I wonder if the Hydra computer I used can run a 2jz...
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This is kinda where I'm at. If I did it again, identically, I couldn't really save a while lot. Maybe a couple Grand. But I felt the transmission tunnel work wasn't that bad. Maybe the transmissions are differently shaped. I wonder if the Hydra computer I used can run a 2jz...
Most people got away with massaging the tunnel. I massaged it for literally 4 weeks and then gave up and cut recesses and boxed them in with a welder. It was necessary for proper clearance. (I have about 3/4" clearance around the bigger parts)
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Most people got away with massaging the tunnel. I massaged it for literally 4 weeks and then gave up and cut recesses and boxed them in with a welder. It was necessary for proper clearance. (I have about 3/4" clearance around the bigger parts)
Holy shit! Why was yours different than everyone else's?
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Holy shit! Why was yours different than everyone else's?
Wish I knew. My best guess is my engine sits further back but i'm using the pure automotive mounts which I know a lot of people are as well.
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Holy shit! Why was yours different than everyone else's?
Just a guess, but hammering metal is like forging metalómaking it harder. I could imagine that the metal could have gotten worked in such a way as to make it more difficult to bend. It can also get kinks and ripples that not only stiffen that section, but it can make it brittle, which leads to cracks. Iím sure it can turb into a nightmare real fast without a clear plan or a few wrong approaches.
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Wish I knew. My best guess is my engine sits further back but i'm using the pure automotive mounts which I know a lot of people are as well.
That would cause problems for sure
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Wish I knew. My best guess is my engine sits further back but i'm using the pure automotive mounts which I know a lot of people are as well.



I don't think your engine is sitting back further than anybody elses', I think nobody openly said the tunnel needed to be cut and boxed. Mine is cut and boxed just like yours. It isn't much, and boxing it isn't a huge deal, but I can imagine what a pain in the ass it would be to go off the assumption that banging the tunnel would make it work. Banging, test fitting, in/out, only to find it doesn't have clearance... If someone has a 2J/CD009 without the tunnel cut post pictures, or a story of the clunking noise the tranny makes when they shift.


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I don't think your engine is sitting back further than anybody elses', I think nobody openly said the tunnel needed to be cut and boxed. Mine is cut and boxed just like yours. It isn't much, and boxing it isn't a huge deal, but I can imagine what a pain in the ass it would be to go off the assumption that banging the tunnel would make it work. Banging, test fitting, in/out, only to find it doesn't have clearance... If someone has a 2J/CD009 without the tunnel cut post pictures, or a story of the clunking noise the tranny makes when they shift.


You're damn near there!
I sincerely appreciate this comment. I was being told by a bunch of people otherwise and I said the same damn thing. I went in and out so many times only to find out it just isn't fitting without recess cuts. I can look back on it now and laugh, but it's enough to drive somebody to lose motivation... I'd rather tell people how tough this all was than act like it was a cake walk.
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I sincerely appreciate this comment. I was being told by a bunch of people otherwise and I said the same damn thing. I went in and out so many times only to find out it just isn't fitting without recess cuts. I can look back on it now and laugh, but it's enough to drive somebody to lose motivation... I'd rather tell people how tough this all was than act like it was a cake walk.
I just find it very odd that your transmission wouldn't fit but mine did. If I'd been willing to modify the transmission casing it would have needed even less hammering. There were many prongs or tabs on my casing (probably from the manufacturing process) that I could have simply cut off. I was worried about resaleability if I ever switched transmissions though
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I just find it very odd that your transmission wouldn't fit but mine did. If I'd been willing to modify the transmission casing it would have needed even less hammering. There were many prongs or tabs on my casing (probably from the manufacturing process) that I could have simply cut off. I was worried about resaleability if I ever switched transmissions though
Like I said above, it may have been his technique or attack points or the fact that the metal was already worked to the point of getting stiff. As noted on the second page of this thread, the bottle jack technique didnít work and perhaps only acted to make the metal harder. Itís just a guess, but yea, working metal is an art, even when it is not.
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