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Old 06-14-2011, 08:05 AM   #43
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Whats with the number on the rear drivers side window? Is that some sort of N'ring requirement?
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:06 AM   #44
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Sounds like this motor is just the regular fb20 with d4-s. No avcs, no vvtli, no high rev. You could tell if it had the technologies the motor would sound more beastly in the mid-upper rpm. I hate this mentality of light car less hp, the Solstice had 174hp and it was 2900lb so if we add 6 hp and shed 200lbs we will be the beezneez around here thinking. FFS make a solid fast n/a car in stock form so I don't feel the need to want a turbo model.. at this point I wish the s2k was a 2+2.

170-180hp is what I saw there.

No turbo, no resonance of high rev/output engine. Same old Suby push with tires screeching from 2 years ago, they managed to stay on track only because they were going slower. What is the car selling good looks and lightweight? Well it looks heavy on the ring and backend is still fugly, that doesn't seem like a sportscar to me, commit to the whole package or don't do it at all.

Lets call it the Scion fR without the S.

2 year old video for comparison

Didnt sound like it was hitting high RPM to me, but how can you tell if it was being pushed?
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:07 AM   #45
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It looked very neutral to me, and the turn in is just like the S2K. But holy crap look at that roll resistance. Its got some massive swaybars or very stiff pre-loaded coilovers. I've never seen something that resistant to roll on a street car outside of a supercar.

I predict that if the production car has this handling package, it will get bad reviews for being to "twitchy" or something, meaning it takes more skill to drive (a la LFA). I'm very excited about it.

Not to hate on anyone, but I've learned that people who comment about "does it oversteer" or "does it understear" don't know about active weight balance of a street derived sports car. All cars oversteer and all cars understeer, its about how manageable it is with what type/size of tires it has.
A million times this.
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:10 AM   #46
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aside from aesthetics why would you guys want a 9.5 wide wheel on a car that pushes only 200hp N/A and a whole lot less of torque? have you driven a 240sx with SR20DET with a 9inch wide wheel? Cant handle worth shit..and turns even worse if it was all 4 corners. Suddenly having a narrow tire of 7inches will offer no performance and traction..DERP

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Thanks for posting. The handling looked pretty decent but the acceleration didn't jump out at me... I guess it could just be how/where it was filmed. Keep em coming!
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A million times this.
Thanks for agreeing, those who commented on my post. So many times I've been flamed on other forums for trying to get the truth out
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:13 AM   #50
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Any translations with this?

This looks the closed to production render so far I think.

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Old 06-14-2011, 09:14 AM   #51
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Is that weight 1150KG?
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:25 AM   #52
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That's what it says. 2535lbs isn't that bad. Though, I assume this is a page from BestCar magazine. So, take any info there with a grain of salt.
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:41 AM   #53
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Is that normal for that much positive camber on the front outside wheel under heavy cornering? But otherwise it's looking great.
Unfortunately, its very common in Subarus. MacPherson Struts lose camber as they compress, pretty aggressively. That's why many people who track and autocross Subarus use VERY stiff springs, with just a little suspension bump (especially when you're lowered), you lose camber.

BMW and Porsche have better-driving struts, by paying closer attention to the geometry so the lower control arm doesn't go past horizontal as quickly and using a lot of caster. (Which effectively creates negative camber into the way you're cornering). Not being an AWD-based architecture or cheap, there are less design constraints in these applications than Subaru has.

The front geometry and caber curve are things I'm going to closely study before I purchase, I'm really not sure I want another strut suspension.

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In response to 'tires are too narrow'Agreed 150%. One of th first things I noticed. Imagine this car with 8-9.5 inch wide tires
So much wrong.

First off, it's a cheap car. Smaller tires are much much cheaper to replace and work well enough for most. Most performance enthusiasts will change wheels and tires anyway, as long as theres clearance I'm fine with derpy stock tires.

For suspension testing and tweaking, smaller tires are much cheaper to use when you use a set a day, and the lower limits mean you're feeling the mechanical grip, behavior at the limit, and balance of the car much sooner. Much like the way people should learn to drive on good summer tires at the stickiest, no R-comps or slicks. Limits are lower and easier to explore, and much more of the mechanical behavior of the car is apparent rather than huge sticky tires making up for flaws.
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:01 AM   #54
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True but it looks to go very wide about :48 second mark. On the other hand the wear on the track makes me think that is just the best line.

I'll have to check again (at work so can't watch right now), but you for the most part when exiting the corner you wan to track the car out. I just figured he was taking the racing line by tracking the car's out and using all of the track. Either way though, the car looked really flat through the turns. I'm liking what I'm seeing thus far.
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Ugh, I hope it turns out better than this render. This makes even the Mk I look hot. XD

From the video, I'm loving the sound of the car...
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:56 AM   #56
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Ugh, I hope it turns out better than this render. This makes even the Mk I look hot. XD

From the video, I'm loving the sound of the car...
I this mag is just creating speculation. It's clear that the production version was derived from the MKII, not the MKIII so I'm calling .

However, if the 2600 lbs estimate is correct with 170 hp, that should be 0-60 in around 6.9 seconds.

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