Help me pick an exhaust - Flowmaster, Invidia, Greddy? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

irxproductions · 08-07-2014, 09:49 AM

Hi all,

If you've read my notoriously controversial Manzo exhaust thread, you know I'm going to be looking at a different exhaust. I've made a selection of different exhausts from @Redline360 below, and wanted YOUR opinion on which of them would be the best for the money (ranked by price):

I've ordered them by price, not preference. If a cheaper one could produce the sound I want, I'd be all for it, but if moving up a little bit in price gets me a much better quality exhaust, then I'd do that, too.

Flowmaster - $498.00 shipped

Invidia N1 - $582.40 shipped

GReddy SP Elite - $583.04 shipped

Invidia Q300 - $682.50 shipped

GReddy Evolution Evo3 - $788.00 shipped

I'd also like to hear what people think about dual pipes versus a connected muffler. Plus, if I've left a pipe off the list that you think is best, I'd love your opinion.

Basically, I'm looking for a quality pipe with a low growl and minimal drone. Loud pipes do not scare me, however.

Thanks for the help, all!

- Irky

Timmy_Jones · 08-07-2014, 11:24 AM

I would stick with the Manzo and see if a shop can bend some stuff to make it fit perfect, only because it has the sound you are looking for.

FR-S Matt · 08-07-2014, 11:52 AM

N1 is probably best bang for your buck for loud and deep growl. Only issue is it drones a lot on a stock header. The drone is less on an aftermarket UEL but is still there some. Nice weight reduction, perfect fitment, and looks good with the Ti burnt tips. Very popular exhaust on several japanese cars.

To reduce drone, you need to stick to the axleback muffler designs that are transaxle, and not dual canister. Most of those sound pretty quiet till you start upgrading the front half of the exhaust.

Perrin Unresonated is a good choice if you're only wanting a catback and nothing else.

J-Money · 08-07-2014, 12:00 PM

Dont get the Flowmaster.. I have it currently and im in the market looking for something else.. Perferably Ft86speedfactory v2 or Perrin

ppbiggums · 08-07-2014, 01:35 PM

I like the Perrin and the Evo3 a lot over the ones I heard. The Perrin is more expensive than the evo3 but I think I'd still go with the Perrin

Churnobyl · 08-07-2014, 01:44 PM

Spend the money go Perrin, 3" if you can afford it. Resonated vs non is up to you. Like others have said, a significant percentage of the noise you get comes from headers and front pipe. A CBE will only change things so much. a loud as F CBE can become a headache if you change headers etc later on.

stevo585 · 08-07-2014, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones

I would stick with the Manzo and see if a shop can bend some stuff to make it fit perfect, only because it has the sound you are looking for.

Manzo V1, I just installed mine, fits prefect. Its a Q300 replica I think.

I think its only the Evo replica (V2) that fits bad it appears.

EMS Guy · 08-07-2014, 02:01 PM

If you are open to suggestions, I am VERY happy with my Dezod one....

My review, pics and such
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70267

cdrazic93 · 08-07-2014, 02:23 PM

The Corsa catback. From the way it sounds at cruise and WOT it'll make you shiver in your jimmies.

Timmy_Jones · 08-07-2014, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevo585

Manzo V1, I just installed mine, fits prefect. Its a Q300 replica I think.

I think its only the Evo replica (V2) that fits bad it appears.

You are correct. I have the V2 and fitment is sub-par, but can be fixed.

kdmxdgt · 08-07-2014, 02:43 PM

greddy evo3 has great low deep end tone but depending how u define drone it may not be for you. the exhaust is not exactly quiet at speed. until over 75mph you will hear the exhaust a good amount humming away

_j_anthony · 08-07-2014, 02:52 PM

I just installed the invidia cat-back, very easy to install if you know anything about modding cars, even a little.
Sounds awesome driving down the road; breaking even more necks then before.

akahenry · 08-07-2014, 02:58 PM

Again, for the best bang for your buck loud and deep growl, the Invidia N1 is the way to go. Sure there will be a slight drone going around 65-70 mph, but the sound is just too orgasmic to put off! Don't get the EVO 3 unless you're going turbo, because that cat back will drone pretty much throughout your cruising range and it's super loud haha.

irxproductions · 08-07-2014, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Churnobyl

Spend the money go Perrin, 3" if you can afford it. Resonated vs non is up to you. Like others have said, a significant percentage of the noise you get comes from headers and front pipe. A CBE will only change things so much. a loud as F CBE can become a headache if you change headers etc later on.

I have no shame admitting that I'm very new to modding - what's the difference between resonated and non-resonated?

08-07-2014, 09:49 AM	#1
irxproductions Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S, 2015 Speed Triple Location: Vancouver, Wash. Posts: 76 Thanks: 177 Thanked 43 Times in 26 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Help me pick an exhaust - Flowmaster, Invidia, Greddy? Hi all, If you've read my notoriously controversial Manzo exhaust thread, you know I'm going to be looking at a different exhaust. I've made a selection of different exhausts from @Redline360 below, and wanted YOUR opinion on which of them would be the best for the money (ranked by price): I've ordered them by price, not preference. If a cheaper one could produce the sound I want, I'd be all for it, but if moving up a little bit in price gets me a much better quality exhaust, then I'd do that, too. Flowmaster - $498.00 shipped Invidia N1 - $582.40 shipped GReddy SP Elite - $583.04 shipped Invidia Q300 - $682.50 shipped GReddy Evolution Evo3 - $788.00 shipped I'd also like to hear what people think about dual pipes versus a connected muffler. Plus, if I've left a pipe off the list that you think is best, I'd love your opinion. Basically, I'm looking for a quality pipe with a low growl and minimal drone. Loud pipes do not scare me, however. Thanks for the help, all! - Irky

08-07-2014, 01:35 PM	#5
ppbiggums Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: '14 BRZ Limited Location: United States Posts: 27 Thanks: 51 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I like the Perrin and the Evo3 a lot over the ones I heard. The Perrin is more expensive than the evo3 but I think I'd still go with the Perrin __________________ Gotta dollar and a FI dream

08-07-2014, 02:23 PM	#9
cdrazic93 Junior Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: a car Location: Probably at school Posts: 4,341 Thanks: 3,184 Thanked 2,512 Times in 1,502 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The Corsa catback. From the way it sounds at cruise and WOT it'll make you shiver in your jimmies. __________________ "Ah! What music! They could have never imagined, those pioneers who invented the automobile, that it would posses us like this, our imaginations, our dreams. Men love women, but even more than that, men love CARS!"-Lord Hesketh

08-07-2014, 02:52 PM	#12
_j_anthony Daily Driven Expert Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: FR-S Monogram(BLACK) Location: United States, NJ Posts: 99 Thanks: 25 Thanked 33 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I just installed the invidia cat-back, very easy to install if you know anything about modding cars, even a little. Sounds awesome driving down the road; breaking even more necks then before. __________________ New Jersey! Instagrams: @FT86_NJ & @_J_Anthony I Need MO' Low

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