Wrecked FR-S Crash Already - Not Mine

[Bukiya]

Originally Posted by Nevermore

I have to admit I've fallen victim to this very thing a couple of times in my mazda 626. To the conversation about doing stupid things in your car, I like to consider myself a pretty careful driver, but the stupid things I have done in my car would have to be hitting my breaks at the start of a slide and spinning around completely.

One time was on light snow, through a round about at maybe 20-25 mph, felt it start to go sideways, tapped the breaks barely and ended up facing the wrong way. It was midnight, no one around.

Another time was on an entrance ramp to a highway in the rain. It had just started raining, which is when it is the most slick and I was going around the sharp curve of the ramp, maybe 25mph, same thing happened, slight slip, didn't think and hit the breaks, spun around backwards. Got extremely lucky, no one was behind me.

I also spun out my brothers 240SX several years ago in a similar rain situation taking off from a stop sign. But that was RWD.

To be honest this stuff makes me nervous about the FR-S, but I want the car too bad to not get it because of this. My nannies will probably never come off though haha

That's the exact thing that happened to me in the rain, going on a freeway onramp on my RWD car. Funny thing is that I barely switched to 3rd gear and applied some gas, and the rpms were probably around 1500. Yeah, hitting the brakes in those situations is a big no no. And of course, taking off from stop signs too during the rain too. That can turn into a nightmare, especially uphill on a RWD manual w/o traction control.

[Accurate Race Shop]

That sucks I keep my traction control on or just in sport mode with most of the weight in the front it gets loose real easy!

[ChrisH]

Originally Posted by tekdemon

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That said, this damned accident is making me rethink buying one of these since the insurance is going to be total murder at this rate-already the quotes I'm seeing are totally crazy and in my area they make us pay crazy money even with a totally clean driving record and a 10 year old Camry...I'm gonna get reamed up the ass with an FR-S. I suppose that's what happens when you release a sports car with a totally defeatable traction control.

Keep in mind: It's all the same with the Mazda MX-5/Miata:
Lively handling, real sportscar, LSD, nannies can be switched off.
And the MX-5 is in the market for ages now.
So what is the insurance in the US for an MX-5 today ??
To high for you? Or just o.k.?

[neutral]

I received an email from my adjuster yesterday and he said he doesn't feel that the car is even close to being a total loss. So that's a relief. I'll let you guys know any more info as I get it.

[SFTiofoso]

I know I'm gonna get flak for this, but if you're buying your first RWD car at the very least play Gran Turismo or Forza in the rain or low grip tires, so that you don't go into this completely blind. It's only a sim, but it would at least give you an idea of what to expect.

[bneale]

Originally Posted by SFTiofoso

I know I'm gonna get flak for this, but if you're buying your first RWD car at the very least play Gran Turismo or Forza in the rain or low grip tires, so that you don't go into this completely blind. It's only a sim, but it would at least give you an idea of what to expect.

FAIL! Forza does not have weather effects.

But it does simulate tires very well thanks to Pirelli!


bneale

[SnapOv3st3r]

Not a horrible suggestion, but I would have to say do it with a wheel and pedal setup, rather than controller at least.

[ChrisH]

Originally Posted by neutral

I received an email from my adjuster yesterday and he said he doesn't feel that the car is even close to being a total loss. So that's a relief. I'll let you guys know any more info as I get it.

That's indeed good news!!

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by ChrisH

@neutral:
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!!!


@all:
Just in case anyone thinks, a FWD car is "safe" and can't oversteer and skid:
Watch here at 0:25 min:

Damn that's a brutal video!

[tripjammer]

I have seen so many videos in Europe of people driving the Toyota 86 in the rain in canyon and mountain roads and they don't seem to be having a problem, but they are probably professional drivers. Folks car wreck, shit happens. Just be safe out there. That is what insurance is for.

[Rampage]

Originally Posted by SFTiofoso

I know I'm gonna get flak for this, but if you're buying your first RWD car at the very least play Gran Turismo or Forza in the rain or low grip tires, so that you don't go into this completely blind. It's only a sim, but it would at least give you an idea of what to expect.

This is not flak.

While GT5, Forza and iRacing may be good enough sims to learn a track layout and some steering and throttle application limits they fall far short of simulating the feel of a car that is about to let loose on you.
They lack the g forces and "seat of the pants" inputs that you really need to tell you when you have reached the limits of adhesion.

The best thing to do is to take your new car to a wide open parking lot or autox track in both wet and dry conditions and drive the thing until you discover what it can and cannot safely do. (and what you can and cannot safely do given your skill set).

[Brett]

Originally Posted by neutral

I received an email from my adjuster yesterday and he said he doesn't feel that the car is even close to being a total loss. So that's a relief. I'll let you guys know any more info as I get it.

About damn time!

[kendalldwhite]

thats some major damage for just going 20 just a couple weeks ago i lost control in my mustang gt. hit the ditch going sideways at 67mph passed out and woke up and there was only a small dent on the drivers side rear bumper from hiting a gaurd rail i was lucky

[krakpot_joe]

Reminds me of this.

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