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Old 01-04-2019, 03:01 PM   #1
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does the valve spring issue cause engine oil leak? my 2013 frs had engine light on and i can smell oil burns. there are also grease accumulated on the engine. i want to know if dealer will fix it during the recall.
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No expert here, but valve springs are internal, so I wouldn't see them as a cause. (unless it of course caused a major engine failure!)

That said, the various gaskets & seals that are replaced when the recall work is done may fix some of your leaks...depending where they are coming from (and whether those parts are dis/reassembled during the work).
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does the valve spring issue cause engine oil leak? my 2013 frs had engine light on and i can smell oil burns. there are also grease accumulated on the engine. i want to know if dealer will fix it during the recall.
Don't drive it and risk a spun rod bearing. Check the cam plate cover, that's a common leak spot on 2013s. I check mine every time I pop the hood for some peace of mind.
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Pretty sure it's supposed to be like that bruh.
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does the valve spring issue cause engine oil leak? my 2013 frs had engine light on and i can smell oil burns. there are also grease accumulated on the engine. i want to know if dealer will fix it during the recall.
Maybe related to this.
https://subaru.oemdtc.com/TSB/SB-10065053-5290.pdf
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does the valve spring issue cause engine oil leak? my 2013 frs had engine light on and i can smell oil burns. there are also grease accumulated on the engine. i want to know if dealer will fix it during the recall.
Welcome aboard -

So, have you read the CEL code? If not, I suggest you do that.

Where is the engine leaking?

As mentioned, the valve spring recall may fix the oil leak, depending on where it is.


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CODE is P2096, Post catalyst fuel trim system too lean.
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Yes, looks like it.
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Don't drive it and risk a spun rod bearing. Check the cam plate cover, that's a common leak spot on 2013s. I check mine every time I pop the hood for some peace of mind.
the leak is from cam plate cover. did you have the same issue?
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the leak is from cam plate cover. did you have the same issue?
I have not, personally, and I do drive a 2013. But it's one of those things I've always had my eye on since I've read it's a common issue. It doesn't seem like a tough repair to do on your own.

Check these threads:

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45097

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46520

Here's an install video:

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And here's a link to the part:

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/race...l#.XC_UglxKiUl

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does the valve spring issue cause engine oil leak? my 2013 frs had engine light on and i can smell oil burns. there are also grease accumulated on the engine. i want to know if dealer will fix it during the recall.
A valve spring failure could result in engine failure.

The dealer may fix the leak during the recall if the leaky part has to be taken off and resealed, like a camshaft cover or camshaft cap/housing.

Also keep in mind that oil burning on the exhaust, as seems to be the problem in your case, affects the oxygen sensor's reference to ambient air. Any exhaust oxygen sensor needs a reference to air outside of the exhaust, if you've got lot of oil smoke filling the engine bay, you're decreasing the amount of oxygen in the reference signal versus what is in the air being burnt in the engine (the intake being located in the bumper). Your engine management may be trying to enrich the mixture to get rid of the "excess" air it's seeing in the exhaust, when in fact it's dealing with too little air in the reference signal, triggering the system lean code.

Also, it's been said to "not drive it to risk a spun bearing" - that is not a concern. Pull the dipstick, if there's oil between the marks, spinning a bearing from an oil leak isn't a real worry. The real problem is enduring the situation for too long and doing long term damage to the cat converter. A lot of old subarus piss oil from everywhere for years, a lot of those old subarus have P0420s, but those old beaters just keep beating on as long as there's oil in 'em.
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A valve spring failure could result in engine failure.

The dealer may fix the leak during the recall if the leaky part has to be taken off and resealed, like a camshaft cover or camshaft cap/housing.

Also keep in mind that oil burning on the exhaust, as seems to be the problem in your case, affects the oxygen sensor's reference to ambient air. Any exhaust oxygen sensor needs a reference to air outside of the exhaust, if you've got lot of oil smoke filling the engine bay, you're decreasing the amount of oxygen in the reference signal versus what is in the air being burnt in the engine (the intake being located in the bumper). Your engine management may be trying to enrich the mixture to get rid of the "excess" air it's seeing in the exhaust, when in fact it's dealing with too little air in the reference signal, triggering the system lean code.

Also, it's been said to "not drive it to risk a spun bearing" - that is not a concern. Pull the dipstick, if there's oil between the marks, spinning a bearing from an oil leak isn't a real worry. The real problem is enduring the situation for too long and doing long term damage to the cat converter. A lot of old subarus piss oil from everywhere for years, a lot of those old subarus have P0420s, but those old beaters just keep beating on as long as there's oil in 'em.
Thank you very much for the info.
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Not trying to derail the subject, but it's also possible that your CEL and oil leak are unrelated. That lean code you have is most commonly associated with vacuum leaks, exhaust leaks, and sometimes an incorrectly scaled maf on an aftermarket intake. I suggest you first check all of your intake and exhaust connections then have a look at the fuel trims. The code is typically triggered when your fuel trims peg positive. IIRC i think once it gets to +30 it'll throw the code.

Before diving deeper into this, the car is stock, right?
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Not trying to derail the subject, but it's also possible that your CEL and oil leak are unrelated. That lean code you have is most commonly associated with vacuum leaks, exhaust leaks, and sometimes an incorrectly scaled maf on an aftermarket intake. I suggest you first check all of your intake and exhaust connections then have a look at the fuel trims. The code is typically triggered when your fuel trims peg positive. IIRC i think once it gets to +30 it'll throw the code.

Before diving deeper into this, the car is stock, right?
yes, it is stock.
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