Need Help Deciding on Newer BRZ - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Ichima · 11-04-2019, 09:28 AM

Hey guys so I may be in the market for a newer BRZ.
Reasoning behind me just wanting to get out into a newer BRZ was due to the stupid valve spring recall. My motor has blown a total of 3 times since February and I can see it blowing again in the very near future. The Dealership has even admitted that they have not worked on enough BRZ's to find out why the motor is constantly breaking down on me.

They quoted me at 20K and my current BRZ for a 2019 limited in white. (7k trade in included for BRZ)

I got another quote from a different dealer at 22k and my current BRZ for a 2019 limited with the PP. (Offered only 5K for trade in on brz but included)

Do you think these are great prices? I'm honestly tired of just bringing my car back every other month almost for repairs. I've tried fighting for a new crate motor after the motor blowing so many times but they won't honor it.

weederr33 · 11-04-2019, 09:53 AM

I'd go for the PP BRZ

Clutch Dog · 11-04-2019, 09:58 AM

I got 12,7k on my 2015 Frs (clean manual 40k miles) on trade for a 2017 PP brz limited. They asked 21k for it
And I took that deal. Even being about 3 or 4 upside down the newer car and the PP pack makes it worth it to me.

Tcoat · 11-04-2019, 10:00 AM

Ichima · 11-04-2019, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Clutch Dog

I got 12,7k on my 2015 Frs (clean manual 40k miles) on trade for a 2017 PP brz limited. They asked 21k for it
And I took that deal. Even being about 3 or 4 upside down the newer car and the PP pack makes it worth it to me.

The good thing for me is I owe nothing on my current BRZ. getting 7K on it with 1 accident where I was rear ended and then service records of the motor being rebuilt 3 times in 8 months that included 2 new short blocks. The dealer offering 7k is the dealer that screwed up the car to start with. The dealer offering 5k is giving me the benefit of the doubt they say.

Jdmuscle · 11-04-2019, 11:56 AM

I paid 26.7k for my 19 BRZ Ltd with PP and 450$ worth of accessories like dimming mirror, all weather cargo mat, interior LED light.

Trade in value sounds very low for your car. Why not try to sell it privately?

Ichima · 11-04-2019, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdmuscle

I paid 26.7k for my 19 BRZ Ltd with PP and 450$ worth of accessories like dimming mirror, all weather cargo mat, interior LED light.

Trade in value sounds very low for your car. Why not try to sell it privately?

I feel like it would be close to impossible to sell. My current BRZ is a ticking time bomb and I personally would hate to sell someone a car that will in the very near future go bad for them. The motor at the moment has a knock that the dealer says is "normal".

Tcoat · 11-04-2019, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdmuscle

I paid 26.7k for my 19 BRZ Ltd with PP and 450$ worth of accessories like dimming mirror, all weather cargo mat, interior LED light.

Trade in value sounds very low for your car. Why not try to sell it privately?

It has an accident on it's history and has been through 3 engines. These alone will drop the trade in value below the average (which appears to be around $8K depending upon location).

DarkPira7e · 11-04-2019, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdmuscle

Trade in value sounds very low for your car. Why not try to sell it privately?

If he tried to sell a BRZ with a motor that was possibly on its way out, how much do you think he could get for it? I think the dealership is giving him the better deal on the trade in offer. The real solution is the initial dealer just getting him a brand new longblock assembly that was assembled in the factory

Ichima · 11-04-2019, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

If he tried to sell a BRZ with a motor that was possibly on its way out, how much do you think he could get for it? I think the dealership is giving him the better deal on the trade in offer. The real solution is the initial dealer just getting him a brand new longblock assembly that was assembled in the factory

Agreed, a new longblock would be the real solution. At this point they are aware of the knock in my motor and say it's safe to drive on. The last couple times they told me that, my motor blew on the highway. Twice. SOA is aware of all the situations and also state they can not do anything if the dealership states the vehicle is "safe"

Tcoat · 11-04-2019, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

If he tried to sell a BRZ with a motor that was possibly on its way out, how much do you think he could get for it? I think the dealership is giving him the better deal on the trade in offer. The real solution is the initial dealer just getting him a brand new longblock assembly that was assembled in the factory

Hell, my car has a perfectly fine engine but with my mileage and all of the highway battle scars I would be overjoyed to get $7K trade in on it.

TunaNoCrust · 11-04-2019, 01:15 PM

Both those offers sound like great deals to me. My brand new 86 TRD was 33 or something.

mrntd · 11-04-2019, 09:16 PM

I don’t know that your car qualifies for lemon law claim it it still may be worth talking to one. If you bought the car new and have three blown engines this year you may have a case. Usually the lawyer will discuss it with you for free. So it can’t hurt.

HaXx · 11-04-2019, 10:06 PM

rip to the poor soul that winds up with that thing. def trade it at the dealer so they are responsible for whoever it blows up on next. but not just yey, ud be crazy to get a 19 with the next gen 86's on the horizon.

11-04-2019, 09:28 AM	#1
Ichima Senior Member Join Date: May 2018 Drives: 13' Lightning Red Brz Location: CT Posts: 114 Thanks: 7 Thanked 52 Times in 36 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Need Help Deciding on Newer BRZ Hey guys so I may be in the market for a newer BRZ. Reasoning behind me just wanting to get out into a newer BRZ was due to the stupid valve spring recall. My motor has blown a total of 3 times since February and I can see it blowing again in the very near future. The Dealership has even admitted that they have not worked on enough BRZ's to find out why the motor is constantly breaking down on me. They quoted me at 20K and my current BRZ for a 2019 limited in white. (7k trade in included for BRZ) I got another quote from a different dealer at 22k and my current BRZ for a 2019 limited with the PP. (Offered only 5K for trade in on brz but included) Do you think these are great prices? I'm honestly tired of just bringing my car back every other month almost for repairs. I've tried fighting for a new crate motor after the motor blowing so many times but they won't honor it.

11-04-2019, 09:53 AM	#2
weederr33 Airborne at your service Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 6,325 Thanks: 4,528 Thanked 5,586 Times in 2,928 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I'd go for the PP BRZ __________________ Series.Yellowbird - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122135 MS, CSCS, TSAC-F, CPT

11-04-2019, 10:00 AM	#4
Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,845 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2495 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	__________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.

11-04-2019, 11:56 AM	#6
Jdmuscle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Drives: Supra, Viper, Z06, GT350 and GX460 Location: Houston Posts: 116 Thanks: 31 Thanked 68 Times in 37 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I paid 26.7k for my 19 BRZ Ltd with PP and 450$ worth of accessories like dimming mirror, all weather cargo mat, interior LED light. Trade in value sounds very low for your car. Why not try to sell it privately? __________________ IG: @vipraz 94 Supra Turbo // 15 Viper GT // 16 Corvette Z06 // 18 Shelby GT350 // 19 BRZ LTD // 18 GX460 Premium // 13 Vrod Muscle

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Clutch Dog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Drives: 2017 BRZ PP , 2005 Saab 97X Location: CA Posts: 1,052 Thanks: 754 Thanked 721 Times in 405 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I got 12,7k on my 2015 Frs (clean manual 40k miles) on trade for a 2017 PP brz limited. They asked 21k for it And I took that deal. Even being about 3 or 4 upside down the newer car and the PP pack makes it worth it to me.

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mrntd Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Drives: 2017 Series.yellow BRZ Location: Central Ohio Posts: 31 Thanks: 62 Thanked 15 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don’t know that your car qualifies for lemon law claim it it still may be worth talking to one. If you bought the car new and have three blown engines this year you may have a case. Usually the lawyer will discuss it with you for free. So it can’t hurt.

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HaXx Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Drives: jrsc_brz Location: boston Posts: 966 Thanks: 726 Thanked 675 Times in 336 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	rip to the poor soul that winds up with that thing. def trade it at the dealer so they are responsible for whoever it blows up on next. but not just yey, ud be crazy to get a 19 with the next gen 86's on the horizon.

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