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2superblus · 03-25-2014, 01:43 PM

Everyone who is even thinking about ever autocrossing is STX should send a message through the system here: http://crbscca.com/

Subject line should read:#12449 Oil Cooler Allowance Proposal

Then in your own words short and sweet or not so long and drawn out let the SEB know that you support this proposal for all Street Touring classes.

EN2_Squirrel · 03-26-2014, 10:46 PM

As i recently discovered toe arms are illegal. Thanks @blkwrxwag from what i understood, it was how it connected to the car at the innermost part not being a bushing. If it is only the connection like the megan racing version; would the whiteline be legal(appears to be bushing)? Thanks in advance

SubiePig · 03-27-2014, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EN2_Squirrel

As i recently discovered toe arms are illegal. from what i understood, it was how it connected to the car at the innermost part not being a bushing. If it is only the connection like the megan racing version; would the whiteline be legal(appears to be bushing)? Thanks in advance

"on double/unequal arm suspensions only the upper arms or lower arms may be modified or replaced but not both. Non-integral longitudinal arms that primarily control fore/aft wheel movement, (trailing arms, links of a multilink suspension) maynot be replaced, changed, or modified."

http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...nd%20links.pdf

Page 81-87 are your friend.

EN2_Squirrel · 03-27-2014, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubiePig

"on double/unequal arm suspensions only the upper arms or lower arms may be modified or replaced but not both. Non-integral longitudinal arms that primarily control fore/aft wheel movement, (trailing arms, links of a multilink suspension) maynot be replaced, changed, or modified."

http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...nd%20links.pdf

Page 81-87 are your friend.

I read very carefully and found no allowance for toe adjusters. "Non-integral longitudinal arms that primarily control fore/aft wheel movement" does not include toe arms. But thank you for giving me the idea.

mrazny · 03-28-2014, 01:22 PM

It's also within a camber allowance. Gotta prove Camber change IMO, and would be how I'd rule if on a Protest Committee.

2superblus · 03-28-2014, 01:50 PM

http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...april-solo.pdf

Member Advisories
Street Touring
#13236 Toe Link Clarification
There is no allowance in Street Touring for aftermarket toe links. In regards to aftermarket control arms, you can replace
your upper or lower arm. However the mounting points must be in precisely the stock locations, excluding the sway bar
endlink mount, and excluding incidental chan

SubiePig · 03-31-2014, 09:01 AM

I really don't think you actually read was I was saying. I was quoting the fact that they are NOT allowed. I don't understand why this is still a discussion.

2superblus · 03-31-2014, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubiePig

I really don't think you actually read was I was saying. I was quoting the fact that they are NOT allowed. I don't understand why this is still a discussion.

I did understand but since it was just in the Fastrack I figured I would show it in black and white the ruled opinion.

Itsjusdame · 04-12-2014, 08:11 PM

I bring my tires to the events to change , and since I haven't found a jack low enough that can reach the front jacking point and portable enough to bring to events.... I have been using the pinch weld behind the front tire (I know the risks , shame on me , I'm trying to do better ) to lift both front and back tire a the same time to change wheels. After doing some reading I might be better of going for dead center to lift both . How do you guys do it??

xwd · 04-12-2014, 08:22 PM

I and most other people lift from the side.

Buy a jack pad like this:

http://protechproducts.com/index.php...ory&path=35_37

Or buy a hockey puck and cut a slit in it to fit the pinch weld. Then you can lift the car anywhere on the side and not worry about it.

I've been using one of the Protech ones on a few different cars for 8+ years now and it's as good as new.

Itsjusdame · 04-12-2014, 09:21 PM

Thanks , I got a puck I'll be using at my next event

Turbo Den · 04-16-2014, 05:51 PM

with the new 2014 R.S.
http://ca.autoblog.com/2014/04/16/20...new-york-2014/

since it comes with TRD lowering springs... does it mean, if my non-R.S. model uses the same set of springs, i will still stay in stock class? or into STX?

ABQautoxer · 04-16-2014, 05:53 PM

While I can't guarantee anything, I'd say the odds of this staying in CS are slim to none. I know my vote won't allow it to stay.

piknockout · 04-17-2014, 09:03 AM

Too many "standard" twins out there that you would make immediately outclassed. I'm sure it will follow the CR logic and move to BS. But will still be allowed in STX.

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03-25-2014, 01:43 PM	#743
2superblus Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ WRB Location: Wiscowsin Posts: 269 Thanks: 71 Thanked 132 Times in 78 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Everyone who is even thinking about ever autocrossing is STX should send a message through the system here: http://crbscca.com/ Subject line should read:#12449 Oil Cooler Allowance Proposal Then in your own words short and sweet or not so long and drawn out let the SEB know that you support this proposal for all Street Touring classes.

03-28-2014, 01:22 PM	#747
mrazny Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: BMW 135i, soon to BRZ Location: LZ, IL Posts: 113 Thanks: 0 Thanked 27 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's also within a camber allowance. Gotta prove Camber change IMO, and would be how I'd rule if on a Protest Committee.

03-28-2014, 01:50 PM	#748
2superblus Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ WRB Location: Wiscowsin Posts: 269 Thanks: 71 Thanked 132 Times in 78 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...april-solo.pdf Member Advisories Street Touring #13236 Toe Link Clarification There is no allowance in Street Touring for aftermarket toe links. In regards to aftermarket control arms, you can replace your upper or lower arm. However the mounting points must be in precisely the stock locations, excluding the sway bar endlink mount, and excluding incidental chan

04-12-2014, 08:11 PM	#751
Itsjusdame Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: Asphalt Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 36 Thanks: 66 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I bring my tires to the events to change , and since I haven't found a jack low enough that can reach the front jacking point and portable enough to bring to events.... I have been using the pinch weld behind the front tire (I know the risks , shame on me , I'm trying to do better ) to lift both front and back tire a the same time to change wheels. After doing some reading I might be better of going for dead center to lift both . How do you guys do it??

04-12-2014, 08:22 PM	#752
xwd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2013 DGM Subaru BRZ (Subie #9) Location: ATL, US Posts: 2,667 Thanks: 123 Thanked 860 Times in 552 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I and most other people lift from the side. Buy a jack pad like this: http://protechproducts.com/index.php...ory&path=35_37 Or buy a hockey puck and cut a slit in it to fit the pinch weld. Then you can lift the car anywhere on the side and not worry about it. I've been using one of the Protech ones on a few different cars for 8+ years now and it's as good as new.

04-12-2014, 09:21 PM	#753
Itsjusdame Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: Asphalt Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 36 Thanks: 66 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks , I got a puck I'll be using at my next event

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Turbo Den Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FRS, IS300, 911sc Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 50 Thanks: 14 Thanked 12 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	with the new 2014 R.S. http://ca.autoblog.com/2014/04/16/20...new-york-2014/ since it comes with TRD lowering springs... does it mean, if my non-R.S. model uses the same set of springs, i will still stay in stock class? or into STX?

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piknockout Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2014 BRZ Location: Maryland Posts: 89 Thanks: 1 Thanked 32 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Too many "standard" twins out there that you would make immediately outclassed. I'm sure it will follow the CR logic and move to BS. But will still be allowed in STX.

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