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Old 07-06-2012, 12:29 PM   #29
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After being a tech at a dealership for 3 years, I can say that the most common phrase I've come to hear is: "it's not my car, why should I care?". That is the reason why I do everything myself, unless I ABSOLUTELY have to take it elsewhere.
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:38 PM   #30
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There was a member on here who had similar damage to the lower part of his bumper and fixed it easily in his driveway. A full repaint of the bumper is not even necessary (and I would try to avoid it because the oem job is usually pretty good).
I had a nice tear in the lower front of the bumper after hitting something on the road. It wasn't quite as big at the OP's but he has nearly no paint damage as it is only a crack, probably could be fixed really easy.

I would think with a heat gun the bumper could be warmed up and set back in place, the crack super-glued, perhaps given a little Bondo putty to any existing cracks, sanded down a bit, primed, and painted relatively easily. You'd only have to get about a couple inches on both sides of the crack to 'blend' it and that's so low on the bumper where it'd probably be unnoticeable.

The only question I have is how whiteout's pearl-esque property factors in when painting. But really, if you get the paint code it's a spot-on match if you spray it.
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OP should have them order in from Japan a factory painted bumper. So much easier. Be present to watch them install it, and free breakfast for his time.
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I had a nice tear in the lower front of the bumper after hitting something on the road. It wasn't quite as big at the OP's but he has nearly no paint damage as it is only a crack, probably could be fixed really easy.

I would think with a heat gun the bumper could be warmed up and set back in place, the crack super-glued, perhaps given a little Bondo putty to any existing cracks, sanded down a bit, primed, and painted relatively easily. You'd only have to get about a couple inches on both sides of the crack to 'blend' it and that's so low on the bumper where it'd probably be unnoticeable.

The only question I have is how whiteout's pearl-esque property factors in when painting. But really, if you get the paint code it's a spot-on match if you spray it.
I believe pearl finishes require three coats: a base coat, a mid coat (for the pearl effect), and the clear coat. Depending on the size, it might be hard the really match it with only the base coat. I wonder if the dealer sells a 3-step paint kit.
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:51 PM   #33
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Should I be concerned about the bumper paint longevity since it will no longer be factory?
Absolutely! It also decreases the value of the car. Not to mention paint match.

Doesn't the factory offer pre-painted components?
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I believe pearl finishes require three coats: a base coat, a mid coat (for the pearl effect), and the clear coat. Depending on the size, it might be hard the really match it with only the base coat. I wonder if the dealer sells a 3-step paint kit.
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Absolutely! It also decreases the value of the car. Not to mention paint match.

Doesn't the factory offer pre-painted components?
^This. Yes, and in this color.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:03 PM   #35
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I'd request diminished value for damaging a brand new car. If it's had bodywork, it's not worth as much; it doesn't matter if it looks as good as new. Just my .02.
very interesting, I didn't know this
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:07 PM   #36
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True, if they are going to already order you a new bumper, I'm pretty sure it comes pre-painted from the OEM. The cost of it that way surely would be cheaper than it unpainted and then having to pay for a paint job afterwards.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:08 PM   #37
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They'll probably end up having to respray a third of the car just to get the paint to blend professionally...seems serious enough to me.
definitly as for it, if you were to apprise the car for future sale, it will come up and your resale value will drop.
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True, if they are going to already order you a new bumper, I'm pretty sure it comes pre-painted from the OEM. The cost of it that way surely would be cheaper than it unpainted and then having to pay for a paint job afterwards.
but a new bumber wont have the same number as rest of the car. this is a tall tail sign that the car have body damage. some area can actually find this out, and it will drop the value of the car.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:13 PM   #39
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Be patient and have a new bumper shipped from Japan.

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I had a 94 Sentra SE-R that got smacked in the rear bumper by some lame driver making a turn and didn't see me GOING STRAIGHT. Since it was on her dime, I took it to a Nissan dealer and they said they can repaint the bumper but the quality wouldn't be like factory because "the factory must have some special method of getting the paint to really adhere to the bumper because we can never quite match the quality of an OEM painted bumper."

Of course this was 2004 so things may have improved. I personally would hold out for a factory-painted bumper.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:21 PM   #40
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Just because it gets painted at the factory doesn't mean it's going to match perfectly. Durability may be better than a body shop paint job, but the replacement bumper cover certainly won't be painted with the same 'batch' of paint your car was originally painted with. As a matter of fact, some of the pictures I've seen on here of the white pearl paint appear that the bumper covers (front & rear) don't match the body perfectly right from the factory and part of that is because the flexible bumpers have an additive in the paint to allow flexibility and they are prepped for paint differently and are not painted while installed on the car.
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Usually the best method when feasible is to have the panel repaired as opposed to replaced if it is a numbered part and can be done adequately. The second best thing is have panel swapped out if the factory can do the finish work(ie. prepainted part from Gunma). Thirdly, would be to select a body shop of YOUR CHOOSING and have it repaired. Lastly, is to have the dealer use their "pet body shop" or have the in house guys do it. I would suggest having your insurance Co. get involved also. I have had this type damage happen more than once (new 1986 Saab Turbo, new 2007 Lotus Elise). The dealer should get some kudos for pointing out the damage as opposed to letting you think it was your fault (if they did in fact). A thank you here will go a long way.

Don't be attitudinal with the dealer. Be firm direct and to the point but not an ass. They may owe you something but nobody likes to loose face, money or feel belittled, not you, not them.

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Old 07-06-2012, 01:50 PM   #42
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Take it to pro repair shop. Its still a new car so it should be near 100% quality fix. Then get free service or parts from the dealer. Dont stress, sucks but life happens. Maybe aftermarket kit?
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