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Old 03-11-2012, 04:38 AM   #29
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but that was a TYPE R.

It was some what of a flagship ...of course the NSX was selling around the same time.

You ask me today whether i want the FRS or Type R....i'll take the type r...JDM version of course (but i'll take any version just need to modify somethings to suit my liking)

You can fit 15inch rims on that car!
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Old 03-11-2012, 07:51 AM   #30
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Yeah, GSR is a better comparison I think. Or civic SI.
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Old 03-11-2012, 09:03 AM   #31
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What other car can you get with 6 speed, RWD, 2700 lbs, LSD, bucket seats and handling tailored after the cayman? for $20K, of course lol.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...?t=3788&page=7

start at post #132....
Post #132 in that thread supports blur's point. With the exception of the Mini (FWD), all those cars are significantly heavier than the FT86.

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Motor Trend estimates 0 to 60 in 6.2 secs...Yeah buddy!
I read that, just a little bit of work and I think I can drop that by 6 seconds.
Dropping it to 6 sec ought to be easy (and it might be able to do that stock with an abusive launch). Dropping it by 6 sec on the other hand...

0-60 in 0.2 sec would require 3000+ hp (and due to traction limitations, different forms of propulsion and steering, as well something to induce some series downforce). The driver might be able to withstand the resulting 13.7 Gs for 0.2 sec without much problem, though sustaining that acceleration for long would mean a loss of consciousness.
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Now that's a nerdpost, right there.

I approve.:happy0180:
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Why does every thread eventually devolve to the same off topic bickering?
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Why does every thread eventually devolve to the same off topic bickering?
Because nobody knows the price or has driven the car. Once it's in dealers we'll have other stupid arguments.
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but that was a TYPE R.

It was some what of a flagship ...of course the NSX was selling around the same time.

You ask me today whether i want the FRS or Type R....i'll take the type r...JDM version of course (but i'll take any version just need to modify somethings to suit my liking)

You can fit 15inch rims on that car!
If the brakes really are lifted from the 08 Impreza, then you'll be able to fit 15's on this to, I've got 15's on mine right now.
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the frs could reach $25k easily with the options that certain people want. Its for that reason I expect the base price to be $23k
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Because nobody knows the price or has driven the car. Once it's in dealers we'll have other stupid arguments.
Indeed then there will be an avalanche of 'Is this a good deal?' threads
Hey-ho, no one is forcing us to be on here, it's all good for a diversion while in front of the computer.
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Do you guys believe bespoke is standard?

Scion never has upscale headunit standard .....
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What do you mean "Scion Frs is the most stripped down?" All Scion models come with the same thing.

-Ipod Usb/Aux

-Pioneer Headunit

-Bluetooth (2012 Models Standard)

-Cloth Seats

Only thing the FRS doesn't have is steering wheel controls.

Their cars are monospec, because they want to keep the price low, and allow for several dealer installed accessories/parts.

The tC has sunroof...even the tc release 7.0 has push start. I am not saying the FR-S needs a sunroof, just that the tC has more standard equipment for the price compared to all other cars in its class. They don't have to strip down the FR-S as much as they did over the BRZ premium to hit the 25k pricing. That's why i was always saying that the bespoke was going to be standard in the FR-S because scion in the future wants this deck to be standard across the scion lineup. In other words the bespoke is the future standard deck, just released first on the FRS. If they make it optional and the price starts at $25k, nobody is going to buy it.

I am still hoping they price this thing right....like $22k to $23k with what we see and the bespoke included.
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Do you guys believe bespoke is standard?

Scion never has upscale headunit standard .....
I think this is going to be the new standard deck across all Scions in the coming years. It's just going to debut on the FR-S first.

If you look on the net you see nothing on it. Its not like any other pioneer deck. I researched that much it is power by Zypr. "Zypr is a cloud based API that acts as a device portal to normalize the interface between the myriad of Internet services and connected devices." The bespoke is a Scion\Pioneer creation.

The coolest thing is you can create Zypr apps for free because becoming a dev is free.

http://www.zypr.net/



You know its funny that we don't see any videos of people actually using the Bespoke...hmmm
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The tC has sunroof...even the tc release 7.0 has push start. I am not saying the FR-S needs a sunroof, just that the tC has more standard equipment for the price compared to all other cars in its class. They don't have to strip down the FR-S as much as they did over the BRZ premium to hit the 25k pricing. That's why i was always saying that the bespoke was going to be standard in the FR-S because scion in the future wants this deck to be standard across the scion lineup. In other words the bespoke is the future standard deck, just released first on the FRS. If they make it optional and the price starts at $25k, nobody is going to buy it.

I am still hoping they price this thing right....like $22k to $23k with what we see and the bespoke included.

Ok, I understand. I hope they price the FR-S right also.

If it's low enough, Scion/Toyota could earn alot of profit.
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If the brakes really are lifted from the 08 Impreza, then you'll be able to fit 15's on this to, I've got 15's on mine right now.
Do you have the Regular 2.5 impreza or a wrx?

The BRZ has the brake system from the WRX . If you've Got a REGULAR impreza, then the BRZ brakes are 3/4" larger in the front, and possibly an inch bigger in the back. Don't forget the Actual calipers are chunkier too.

I'd be surprised if the BRZ could fit 15's
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