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Old 01-30-2017, 10:58 AM   #1
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5 things I dislike about my 2017 BRZ

I did one of these...I'll put the dislikes below to spare you watching the video if you do not want to.

One thing I learned out of this from viewers is, the exhaust tips on the 2017 BRZ are adjustable. Like, you can slide them forward and back lol

1. Torque dip (better than previous MY's, but still there)
2. Steering wheel (not the wheel buttons, but just how thin it is)
3. Stock pedal spacing (wish they were closer together, hard to heel/toe downshift for me)
4. G-meter (very limited practicality, could be replaced with something more useful).
5. Exhaust tips (sunken in on my car, turns out these can be adjusted!!)

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWK-RxDe3ak[/ame]
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:02 AM   #2
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Can totally agree on #3

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1. Torque dip (better than previous MY's, but still there) Does it interfere with your 0 to 60 land speed record? Need that 1,000th of a second on your light to light travels? If for track/race use then there are things that can be done
2. Steering wheel (not the wheel buttons, but just how thin it is) I thought the 17s were thicker than the prior ones? I found it way thicker than I liked when I checked one out.
3. Stock pedal spacing (wish they were closer together, hard to heal/toe downshift for me) It is still made as a street car first and needs to accommodate all sizes of feet and shoes. Practice.
4. G-meter (very limited practicality, could be replaced with something more useful). Limited is better than nothing.
5. Exhaust tips (sunken in on my car, turns out these can be adjusted!!) Resolved.
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3. Stock pedal spacing (wish they were closer together, hard to heal/toe downshift for me)
CUSCO SPORTS ACCELERATOR PEDAL - 2013+ FR-S / BRZ

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#3 - Twist your ankle more. It's awkward at first but you get used to it.
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Also, there's the GSpeed pedal relocator.
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1. Torque dip (better than previous MY's, but still there) Does it interfere with your 0 to 60 land speed record? Need that 1,000th of a second on your light to light travels? If for track/race use then there are things that can be done
2. Steering wheel (not the wheel buttons, but just how thin it is) I thought the 17s were thicker than the prior ones? I found it way thicker than I liked when I checked one out.
3. Stock pedal spacing (wish they were closer together, hard to heal/toe downshift for me) It is still made as a street car first and needs to accommodate all sizes of feet and shoes. Practice.
4. G-meter (very limited practicality, could be replaced with something more useful). Limited is better than nothing.
5. Exhaust tips (sunken in on my car, turns out these can be adjusted!!) Resolved.
Just the tip?
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1. Torque dip (better than previous MY's, but still there) Does it interfere with your 0 to 60 land speed record? Need that 1,000th of a second on your light to light travels? If for track/race use then there are things that can be done
2. Steering wheel (not the wheel buttons, but just how thin it is) I thought the 17s were thicker than the prior ones? I found it way thicker than I liked when I checked one out.
3. Stock pedal spacing (wish they were closer together, hard to heal/toe downshift for me) It is still made as a street car first and needs to accommodate all sizes of feet and shoes. Practice.
4. G-meter (very limited practicality, could be replaced with something more useful). Limited is better than nothing.
5. Exhaust tips (sunken in on my car, turns out these can be adjusted!!) Resolved.
It interferes with daily drive-ability and performing basic driving activities like, passing.

Actually, yes I do need that extra thousandth of a second National level autocross is decided by thousandths and hundredths of a second...I am well aware of what can be done to lessen the torque dip.

My 2013 FRS has a thicker, better feeling wheel than my 2017 BRZ does.

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Yep, I have that exact pedal on the BRZ and had it on my FRS as well.

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#3 - Twist your ankle more. It's awkward at first but you get used to it.
It is indeed awkward, I just couldn't get it down. I like the stock pedals on my 325is, they are well setup for heel/toe straight from the factory.
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1. Torque dip (better than previous MY's, but still there) Does it interfere with your 0 to 60 land speed record? Need that 1,000th of a second on your light to light travels? If for track/race use then there are things that can be done
2. Steering wheel (not the wheel buttons, but just how thin it is) I thought the 17s were thicker than the prior ones? I found it way thicker than I liked when I checked one out.
3. Stock pedal spacing (wish they were closer together, hard to heal/toe downshift for me) It is still made as a street car first and needs to accommodate all sizes of feet and shoes. Practice.
4. G-meter (very limited practicality, could be replaced with something more useful). Limited is better than nothing.
5. Exhaust tips (sunken in on my car, turns out these can be adjusted!!) Resolved.
Although I know your response to #1 is sarcasm, I get OP's point. This car in stock form makes a lot of noise in the torque dip area, but doesn't move much. They might as well take some of that artificial noise out -- it feels silly and kills the sensory feel. Considering a daily drive means that 90% of the time folks are between 2k - 3.5k, the torque dip really is the first thing that should be improved.

Either way, here we are.
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Although I know your response to #1 is sarcasm, I get OP's point. This car in stock form makes a lot of noise in the torque dip area, but doesn't move much. They might as well take some of that artificial noise out -- it feels silly and kills the sensory feel. Considering a daily drive means that 90% of the time folks are between 2k - 3.5k, the torque dip really is the first thing that should be improved.

Either way, here we are.
Down shift.
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It interferes with daily drive-ability and performing basic driving activities like, passing.

Actually, yes I do need that extra thousandth of a second National level autocross is decided by thousandths and hundredths of a second...I am well aware of what can be done to lessen the torque dip.

My 2013 FRS has a thicker, better feeling wheel than my 2017 BRZ does.



Yep, I have that exact pedal on the BRZ and had it on my FRS as well.



It is indeed awkward, I just couldn't get it down. I like the stock pedals on my 325is, they are well setup for heel/toe straight from the factory.
OK I will give ya that one then! Not the drivability just the autocross.
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Although I know your response to #1 is sarcasm, I get OP's point. This car in stock form makes a lot of noise in the torque dip area, but doesn't move much. They might as well take some of that artificial noise out -- it feels silly and kills the sensory feel. Considering a daily drive means that 90% of the time folks are between 2k - 3.5k, the torque dip really is the first thing that should be improved.

Either way, here we are.
Not sure if you've tried this but the easiest solution for me was just to plug in the sound tube and switch to 93 octane (or use octane booster if still on 91).

The "artificial" noise is gone and the natural engine sound is much smoother. Engine also feels more eager to rev through the torque dip area.

Of course, you still won't fully eliminate the torque dip without a catless header and tune. But it's peppy enough for me.
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This car in stock form makes a lot of noise in the torque dip area, but doesn't move much. They might as well take some of that artificial noise out -- it feels silly and kills the sensory feel.
You may know this, but in case you didn't: The car comes from the dealer with a cap stuck in the lighter socket in the glove box. If you peel the passenger side carpet back from the top, you'll see a grommet where the sound tube that pipes in that resonator noise enters the cabin. The cap from the lighter socket is the exact same size as that grommet and will plug the sound tube to keep that silly noise out. They made it to fit that way on purpose, for those of us who think the sound tube is silly.
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in my world, torque dip is a first gear thing.
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