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Pure Automotive · 03-13-2018, 08:57 AM

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So, HASport says a K24 with axles, manifolds, accessories and transmission weighs 413lbs. Subtract the transmission, axles and p/s pump weight from the listed K motor weight and you're looking at an easy 100 pound reduction up front of the 86 compared to the FA20. Maybe more depending on manifolds used, etc. That's almost more appealing than the power bump.

http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...train-weights/

I spoke to another shop that did a one off K swap in a rocket bunny FRS, theirs was turbo and it still only weighed 2460 full interior! So imagine no turbo kit and no rb kit, I think with some lightweight wheels and brakes you're talking 2300ish, that is INSANE if it happens.

sam69 · 03-13-2018, 09:50 AM

Love the idea of this so was wondering how one would comply with emissions etc .

Also which is the best model K24 engine to use if one was to do a swap as I know next to bugger all about Honda's

laextreme5 · 03-13-2018, 10:14 AM

Which adapter did you use that cost $900. The only one im seeing is the Ballade Motorsports one for $400.

venturaII · 03-13-2018, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pure Automotive

I spoke to another shop that did a one off K swap in a rocket bunny FRS, theirs was turbo and it still only weighed 2460 full interior! So imagine no turbo kit and no rb kit, I think with some lightweight wheels and brakes you're talking 2300ish, that is INSANE if it happens.

Wow...sub-2500 would be fantastic. Free horsepower and handling.

Spuds · 03-13-2018, 10:53 AM

Are you planning on doing any internal engine work? I'm not too familiar with Hondas but stock power levels aren't particularly impressive on the k24 unless I am missing something?

laextreme5 · 03-13-2018, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Spuds

Are you planning on doing any internal engine work? I'm not too familiar with Hondas but stock power levels aren't particularly impressive on the k24 unless I am missing something?

massive NA potential. 300whp is a cake walk for them. That plus less weight off front end will be amazing. at 2400 lbs thats a 8:1 weight to power ratio. Rough equivalent to a 400whp sti or wrx for comparison.

spitfire481 · 03-13-2018, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by laextreme5

Which adapter did you use that cost $900. The only one im seeing is the Ballade Motorsports one for $400.

that's just the adapter. You need the custom flywheel as well

Pure Automotive · 03-13-2018, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds

Are you planning on doing any internal engine work? I'm not too familiar with Hondas but stock power levels aren't particularly impressive on the k24 unless I am missing something?

For this particular setup, no, but if I were doing it for myself, I would probably do cams, springs, retainers at a minimum.... and then boost the crap out of it lol

venturaII · 03-13-2018, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds

Are you planning on doing any internal engine work? I'm not too familiar with Hondas but stock power levels aren't particularly impressive on the k24 unless I am missing something?

250+bhp in a sub 2500 pound car doesn't sound like fun to you?

Spuds · 03-13-2018, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by laextreme5

massive NA potential. 300whp is a cake walk for them. That plus less weight off front end will be amazing. at 2400 lbs thats a 8:1 weight to power ratio. Rough equivalent to a 400whp sti or wrx for comparison.

What would one have to do to get 300 NA? 250-280 with head work doesn't seem unreasonable for a 2.4L, but I'm a bit surprised at 300. I guess on e85 it wouldn't be unreasonable if that's what you are talking about?

A bit off topic, I apologize.

Spuds · 03-13-2018, 01:39 PM

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250+bhp in a sub 2500 pound car doesn't sound like fun to you?

Unless I missed something in my limited research, stock k24s made like 205hp at the crank...

Irace86.2.0 · 03-13-2018, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds

Unless I missed something in my limited research, stock k24s made like 205hp at the crank...

Im not familiar enough with Honda motors to speak from authority, but what has been discussed in other threads is the difference in having reliable, power potential over the Fa20.

laextreme5 · 03-13-2018, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds

What would one have to do to get 300 NA? 250-280 with head work doesn't seem unreasonable for a 2.4L, but I'm a bit surprised at 300. I guess on e85 it wouldn't be unreasonable if that's what you are talking about?

A bit off topic, I apologize.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/k-seri.../#post39337978

good simple breakdown

86Tony · 03-13-2018, 02:33 PM

Is it safe to start buying the parts on your list that you bought new?

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