K24 Swap Parts Thread by SwapYour86.com and Pure Auto

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

Clearly you have no idea what a K series can do with E85 and a tune...
Get one built, and I've seen them make over 500, N/A.

Clearly that doesn’t matter when the guy clearly said all he wants is 220whp

...Unless Ashikabi n I were confused, and he wants 220whp on top of stock hp.

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Clearly that doesn’t matter when the guy clearly said all he wants is 220whp



...Unless Ashikabi n I were confused, and he wants 220whp on top of stock hp.

Agreed. I don't think 500 all motor HP is what he's after. I just felt an expensive swap was unnecessary when his goal seems to be a amenity-less race car. You can swap any motor for "cheap" when you don't need any fancy electronic features to work. Mounts, drive shaft, cheap computer to run the motor (if that). Maybe some gauges

[Clash0901]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

Clearly you have no idea what a K series can do with E85 and a tune...
Get one built, and I've seen them make over 500, N/A.

It's 2019, people don't fall for this type of fake news anymore and you shouldn't spread it. This isn't possible without spray. The dyno needs to be properly calibrated and/or the tuner needs to be slapped for falsifying numbers.

[Icecreamtruk]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

??? I’m utterly confused why you would spend over ten thousand on this swap for something that is achievable on the stock motor with bolt ons, e85 and a tune. If you aren’t going to buy the motec then you will save some money but still be in the hole for a lot more money.

I have no access to E85. 200whp with shitty canadian gas is not possibly, 180whp on a good day with the best bolt-ons is possible, but rather expensive as well. My engine already blew the head gastket being completely stock. This is a dedicated track car with heavy aero that runs very high Gs even on shitty 100tw tires (nittos, toyos, and the like), enough so that fellow competitors runing the same setup have already starved the bearings enough to spin them. This engine cannot handle high Gs without a lot of mods to improve oiling. Im going to be spending 10k to get a setup that will allow me to get to my power levels and then replace engine parts as they go for very little, allowing to make my money back on the long run. When you have a race car its not "IF" but "WHEN" they break. Also, did I mention a k24 can develop around 250whp NA with very good reliability and weights almost 100lbs less than the FA20?

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by Icecreamtruk

I have no access to E85. 200whp with shitty canadian gas is not possibly, 180whp on a good day with the best bolt-ons is possible, but rather expensive as well. My engine already blew the head gastket being completely stock. This is a dedicated track car with heavy aero that runs very high Gs even on shitty 100tw tires (nittos, toyos, and the like), enough so that fellow competitors runing the same setup have already starved the bearings enough to spin them. This engine cannot handle high Gs without a lot of mods to improve oiling. Im going to be spending 10k to get a setup that will allow me to get to my power levels and then replace engine parts as they go for very little, allowing to make my money back on the long run. When you have a race car its not "IF" but "WHEN" they break. Also, did I mention a k24 can develop around 250whp NA with very good reliability and weights almost 100lbs less than the FA20?

So what's stopping you from making motor mounts and getting a Kpro ECU (or whatever) and tossing a K24 in there now?

[Icecreamtruk]

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

So what's stopping you from making motor mounts and getting a Kpro ECU (or whatever) and tossing a K24 in there now?

I have mediocre fab skills, I dont have a garage (do it all on my driveway or rent garage places for a couple of hours at a time), and I dont have the tools for specifically welding and bending metal. I fab most of my aero but beyond bending alu I cant really work with much more. Which brings me to "bring it to a shop and let them do it" which is going to cost more. If I can buy mounts, adapters, standalone ECU and the headers, I should, theoretically, be able to drop the engine in myself and then I would take it to the tuner to finish the finer details.

Also, I just repaired a blown head gasket on my FA20, Im gonna run that sucker till it explodes for all it has costed me so far.

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by Clash0901

It's 2019, people don't fall for this type of fake news anymore and you shouldn't spread it. This isn't possible without spray. The dyno needs to be properly calibrated and/or the tuner needs to be slapped for falsifying numbers.

You were saying?

http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...drag-spec-k24/

No mention of spray anywhere...

[Icecreamtruk]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

You were saying?

http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...drag-spec-k24/

Yeah, I also saw the 4piston racing engines. It might be for latter as a "need more powah" kind of thing. But I will probably do a basic street used engine just to get the car running with similar or a bit more power than it currently has.

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by Icecreamtruk

I have mediocre fab skills, I dont have a garage (do it all on my driveway or rent garage places for a couple of hours at a time), and I dont have the tools for specifically welding and bending metal. I fab most of my aero but beyond bending alu I cant really work with much more. Which brings me to "bring it to a shop and let them do it" which is going to cost more. If I can buy mounts, adapters, standalone ECU and the headers, I should, theoretically, be able to drop the engine in myself and then I would take it to the tuner to finish the finer details.



Also, I just repaired a blown head gasket on my FA20, Im gonna run that sucker till it explodes for all it has costed me so far.

Don't they already have the mounts available though?

[BertoFT]

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

Don't they already have the mounts available though?

He might be waiting for Pure to finish their swap. They will probably have some good incite at that point (and pics!). That's the part I'm waiting on, so that I can plan my build.

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[Clash0901]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

You were saying?

http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...drag-spec-k24/

No mention of spray anywhere...

They are literally using methanol as a fuel, not just an additive. Not e85 as previously stated lol. Nice try.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

You were saying?

http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...drag-spec-k24/

No mention of spray anywhere...

I posted the same link earlier in this thread, just fwi. That article shows a build that costs $10-15k+ for just the block and head. Add some titanium bits, dry sump, forged crank, etc and this engine is north of $20k. See below:

http://www.4pistonracing.com/k24-480...omplete-engine

Ashikabi and I weren't suggesting the K24 wasn't the better platform for power. Perhaps throwing $20k into the FA20 motor wouldn't produce the same results, but it sounds like all the guy was asking for is 220whp. Clearly a 2.4L stock K-series motor will outperform the FA20, but this swap kit seems silly considering the cost versus the goal power. All he really needs is motor mounts from Pure and some tid bits. He wouldn't need a custom wiring harness that integrates with a Motec system and the stock wiring system, so that all stock features are usable. That is all we were saying.

@Icecreamtruk ...How did you settle on the K24? Have you considered the 2JZGE motor? 225hp/220tq stock. Obviously reliable. Definitely upgradable. Too heavy?

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Maybe Clash0901 just read the title of the video and assumed "all motor k24 on pump e85" meant stock k24 on pump gas or on e85, in which case, he was right in his statements. He probably wasn't thinking this was a built motor with 16:1 compression, high flow head, ITB's or any other crazy configuration.

I posted the same link earlier in this thread, just fwi. That article shows a build that costs $10-15k+ for just the block and head. Add some titanium bits, dry sump, forged crank, etc and this engine is north of $20k. See below:

http://www.4pistonracing.com/k24-480...omplete-engine

Ashikabi and I weren't suggesting the K24 wasn't the better platform for power. Perhaps throwing $20k into the FA20 motor wouldn't produce the same results, but it sounds like all the guy was asking for is 220whp. Clearly a 2.4L stock K-series motor will outperform the FA20, but this swap kit seems silly considering the cost versus the goal power. All he really needs is motor mounts from Pure and some tid bits. He wouldn't need a custom wiring harness that integrates with a Motec system and the stock wiring system, so that all stock features are usable. That is all we were saying.

@Icecreamtruk ...How did you settle on the K24? Have you considered the 2JZGE motor? 225hp/220tq stock. Obviously reliable. Definitely upgradable. Too heavy?

The video I posted was not of the motor in this link...

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by Clash0901

They are literally using methanol as a fuel, not just an additive. Not e85 as previously stated lol. Nice try.

Methanol is easier to come by in Canada than E85. Bonus.