08-23-2018, 09:32 AM | #29 |
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Cars.com is a great place to find cars both at dealerships and individuals.
But you are looking at this the wrong way. Hunt for the local group, either on here or on facebook. There will be someone that will let you take a drive of there car and they will know where to drive it. I'm sure a case of beer or a $20 will be worth it. |
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08-23-2018, 09:38 AM | #30 | |
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What have you driven in the past? What @why? said above. |
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Drive the hour.
Why is this a thread? We need more pugs! Sat 7am wake up 7:15am leave. 8:15 test drive 8:30 leave 9:30 eat breakfast start your normal day. |
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The second thing is that the dealers are responsible for local inventory. Subaru/Toyota can't make a dealer buy a car from them to sell, or have any say in what options the dealer orders their car with. I'm sure it doesn't help that you're in Detroit where I'd guess that "buying American" is more important to your area, and the people that do want an imported car likely want AWD. I'm from Cleveland OH so I'm seeing the same thing. BRZs are rare, and when I do see them at the dealer, they're often the test drive mule with 450+ miles being sold as new. People are afraid of RWD cars in the north for some reason too, convinced that the car can't move in winter time if it doesn't have AWD, regardless of the tires equipped. |
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Is this true? It would seem that the 2019 should be the ones rolling out by late august, no? I saw a few 2019 models at the dealer but none BRz, mostly WRX and their suvs.
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Meh never mind Extra he get's a bit crotchety sometimes. I wouldn't want to drive an a hour around Detroit unless I had to either.
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Local dealers don't like the cars because there are very few trim levels and options. One of the goals for a car salesman is to sell you as much car as you can afford. If you come in looking at an Impreza, can I upsell you a WRX? If you settle on the WRX, can I add options onto your order to wring more money out of you? Having additional trims and options can also be used as additional bargaining chips to deflect your attention away from bad price or loan terms. If they have a customer complaining about the terms, they can offer to throw in relatively inexpensive options to sweeten the deal. Dodge has mastered this in a ridiculous fashion with the Charger and Challenger. Go look at the builds on those things. You have pages and pages of different versions of the cars, with different option packages, different stand-alone upgrades, literally hundreds of combinations you can build. Someone starting out expecting to pay $35K can easily find himself financing a $50K car instead after a few rounds of add-ons and some slick talk about monthly payments. With the BRZ, you basically have two trim levels without many differences between them and very few options to add on. Either you want the car or you don't. That means a Subaru salesman's only real upselling opportunity is to offer you a test drive in a WRX instead (which is what my salesman did), but that rarely works in his favor. The Toyota dealer really has nothing at all to offer as an upgrade, since Toyota has locked itself in perpetual competition with GM to see who can produce the most boring vehicles on the planet. So the margin on the BRZ and 86 remains low, and there's not a lot of incentive for the dealership to order many of them. If you want to drive one, you'll have to find a dealer willing to keep one on the lot. But that's okay, because a serious buyer for this car will be willing to make the drive. Without all the tearful hand-wringing. |
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I've bought and sold a lot of cars in my time. I've never been denied a test drive on anything I've inquired about. I've been invited by salesman to drive cars that were $50,000 and up. Stuff clearly out of the budget I told them I wanted to spend.
I suspect this is due to me dressing nice, having a high credit score and a history with the dealerships of buying cars. If you look like somebody to be taken seriously, more than likely they'll take you seriously. Granted my experiences are mine and yours may vary.
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Too true, I drove 2 hours and had a horrid dealership experience where they did not announce they were redoing their parking lot and 90% of their cars you couldn't drive. I still went back the next week to drive the car. Then The salesman was an imbecile who had no clue and would never have been able to sell anything outside of a Subaru or Toyota dealership because of their rabid fan bases and loyalty. I told him to go screw and bought a car somewhere else.
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The first (Subaru) dealership I ever visited was Carlsen Subaru in Redwood City, CA. They don't let people test-drive BRZs or WRXs because supposedly any mileage would deter potential buyers in that demographic
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Back when I bought mine in 2013, in my area at least, at least one Subaru dealer did not let me test drive the car which lead me to believe that they were either trying to deter non-serious buyers from just test driving for fun, and/or wanted to create some hype that this was some sort of rare super car. I'd be interested to know if this was the case nowadays.
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