SCCA RTR Vs C stock

[theredtape]

Can someone explain the difference to me? I searched but no luck... not even on google. What is the benefit of one vs the other?

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by theredtape

Can someone explain the difference to me? I searched but no luck... not even on google. What is the benefit of one vs the other?

have you tried the SCCA official website?


http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...e%20Rules1.pdf




RTR follows C-Stock rules except that you are limited in the type of tire you may run.

So if you feel that you like the modification allowances of the stock category, but do not wish to run a dedicated R-Comp tire and would prefer to compete on your Streets, then RTR is for you.

Also I’m not sure what you mean by “benefit” but there are no benefits to any of the classes, the point is to try to keep as level playing field as possible. The question is how much modification do you want in your car to feel comfortable and enjoy a day eating pylons, and based on that you end up in a class.

Generally, the more crap you put on your car the less competitive it tends to become. “Mod” cars generally have the odds stacked against them, they may set FTD but pax kills them.

[theredtape]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

have you tried the SCCA official website?


RTR follows C-Stock rules except that you are limited in the type of tire you may run.

... yeah of course I read the SCCA website... I was just looking for someone to put it in plain English for me.

When I was there last year I was told that stock catagory had to run a tread wear of 140 and this year it was being bumped to 180. I figured that ruled out anything but what would be a dot approved street tire. Which to me seemed to be pretty similar to the RTR category.

I don't plan on doing any real mods to my car besides picking up a better set of tires when the OEM ones wear out, I am just trying to understand where I would fall depending on the tires I buy.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by theredtape

I figured that ruled out anything but what would be a dot approved street tire. Which to me seemed to be pretty similar to the RTR category.

je ne tu pas comprende senior por favor arugula

dude, it's like right there in the first paragraph, written in plain english

"allowed but must have a minimum UTQG treadwear rating of 140."

your sources are incorrect.

[jdrxb9]

Originally Posted by theredtape

... yeah of course I read the SCCA website... I was just looking for someone to put it in plain English for me.

When I was there last year I was told that stock catagory had to run a tread wear of 140 and this year it was being bumped to 180. I figured that ruled out anything but what would be a dot approved street tire. Which to me seemed to be pretty similar to the RTR category.

I don't plan on doing any real mods to my car besides picking up a better set of tires when the OEM ones wear out, I am just trying to understand where I would fall depending on the tires I buy.

From what you are saying, I'm guessing your local group is already running street tires in 'stock' classes and probably has a separate 'pax' or 'pro' class that runs R tires and competes on index. If that is the case, then for you, there is zero difference between 'stock' and RT unless you want to jump in with the R tire guys.

If you were there last year, there was a time where a change to 180 tread wear was proposed, but after receiving feedback, that proposal was withdrawn. If I were you, I'd limit myself to 200 or higher just in case the rules get changed again before you wear them out. I also recommend talking to your local guys again - I'm sure they'd be happy to guide you.

[Tt3Sheppard]

Originally Posted by theredtape

Can someone explain the difference to me? I searched but no luck... not even on google. What is the benefit of one vs the other?

I'll be running Scca CStock Novice class then CStock RTR. I see you're in MA so are you running Ayer MA next weekend? Stick with that if you don't plan on running R-Comps

[theredtape]

Originally Posted by jdrxb9

From what you are saying, I'm guessing your local group is already running street tires in 'stock' classes and probably has a separate 'pax' or 'pro' class that runs R tires and competes on index. If that is the case, then for you, there is zero difference between 'stock' and RT unless you want to jump in with the R tire guys.

If you were there last year, there was a time where a change to 180 tread wear was proposed, but after receiving feedback, that proposal was withdrawn. If I were you, I'd limit myself to 200 or higher just in case the rules get changed again before you wear them out. I also recommend talking to your local guys again - I'm sure they'd be happy to guide you.

Thanks, that makes sense.

Originally Posted by Tt3Sheppard

I'll be running Scca CStock Novice class then CStock RTR. I see you're in MA so are you running Ayer MA next weekend? Stick with that if you don't plan on running R-Comps

Yeah I am running at ayer next weekend. Well I plan too. I haven't signed up yet but seeing as Ayer is only one town over I don't really have an excuse. I ran Novice Cstock last time I went and Ill probably run novice for two more events before going to Cstock rtr as well.

[Tt3Sheppard]

Oh good so I'll see you there then. Reg list shows another FR-s running in novice cstock as well. Should be fun.