P&L Header prototype

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

I will say that yes my top end is VERY strong and I can run it to 7500 without feeling much fall off. This works for me with the lower FD.

I think that these guys who are tuning a TON of Zizzles and Sissles maybe are getting broader results in shorter time periods maybe. Just a thought.

Myles

There's no doubt, @Visconti and @fa20club.com are both getting a ton of experience from all the tunes they are pushing out. It really helps their learning curve compared to other tuners.

[Hawaiian]

@StormTrooper Here you go, My car bone stock vs Full P&L uncatted header, exhaust, and visconti 93 pumpgas basemap. No intake.

[StormTrooper]

uuummmm......broken link?

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by StormTrooper

uuummmm......broken link?

@StormTrooper

Fixed.

When I dumped it on photobucket they resized it. I'll tweak that later.

[StormTrooper]

curious why you chose to start the run after 3000 rpm....i would assume little to no gains in that region but i'm curious if there are any significant loses before 3k.

Thanks

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by StormTrooper

curious why you chose to start the run after 3000 rpm....i would assume little to no gains in that region but i'm curious if there are any significant loses before 3k.

Thanks

There was a large discussion about that earlier, but basically, I didn't want to repeatedly bog the engine while doing a ton of pulls. This is my DD and I want it to last a while. The main target was dip elimination. Realistically, I cant recall the last time I shifted into 4th at 2k rpm, then went WOT.

I did do a full pull on e85 for the people who were bringing that up. You can see, it looks fine, no dip.

[StormTrooper]

that's how I want my curve to look but i have 91oct and live at 4500 feet so i doubt i'll even get close lol.

[P&L Motorsports]

Videos are up: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=81

[awlllwa]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

WOH...you trynna' put that RODE up against my Sennheiser? shotgun microphone shootout 2013 !

Myles

So now that P&L has their recordings posted i was curious how this sounds compared to your Perrin exhaust. Do the Perrin pipes tame some of the volume and harshness out of the exhaust note that is heard in the videos? Or is all that sound change from the P&L catted headers, with my car being a DD for now I am not sure i could lived with that.

[tisb0b]

Originally Posted by P&L Motorsports

Videos are up: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=81

I'm conflicted your exhaust shows great gains on the dyno but sounds kinda bland. I don't know whether it's the video but I don't really hear a deep tone like in this Ark Grip system:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iDjsv7GrHRY

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by tisb0b

I'm conflicted your exhaust shows great gains on the dyno but sounds kinda bland. I don't know whether it's the video but I don't really hear a deep tone like in this Ark Grip system:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iDjsv7GrHRY

I would say that it's a combination of things. It's not the loudest exhaust on the market, but the audio in the video isn't spectacular imho either. I think it sounds great in person.

When I fired it up on sunday at the meet, several guys came over from across the lot to check it out and commented on how it sounds. To each their own however.

Edit: On a side note, another local guy has the SRT exhaust. On it's own it sounded great, but once the header was added to the equation he found it unlivable for his daily driving. He's getting rid of it, and going with the full P&L exhaust.

[CircuitJerk]

Well, here is some loud for you. I can't wait to kick the SRT catback to the curb. In some ways it sounds awesome but it's just a bit much for me

Right now, I have the catted P&L header, overpipe, catless front pipe, and a dual resonated SRT catback. Believe me when I say the added resonator helps a lot with cabin noise.
Saturday, the SRT will be swapped out for the P&L Motorsports Street Series catback.
I have a Visconti STG1 tune, but it is not yet calibrated for the header.

Enyoy...

[ame]http://youtu.be/_TBYLNC9WhY[/ame]



In cabin

[ame]http://youtu.be/9HnUBQIKdkU[/ame]

[tisb0b]

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

I would say that it's a combination of things. It's not the loudest exhaust on the market, but the audio in the video isn't spectacular imho either. I think it sounds great in person.

So it would probably be what I'm after as I hate loud exhausts on slow cars.

[CircuitJerk]

Originally Posted by tisb0b

So it would probably be what I'm after as I hate loud exhausts on slow cars.

Mine's probably a good example of what you'd hate! LOL
All that racket, and no go=toobig4britches