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08-30-2013, 12:30 PM | #43 | |
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BTW : I was on the fence with what power added I was going to go with but, thanks to your corny videos i'm going with the same supercharger setup you have. |
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On 91, the tuning has to be so aggressively de-tuned to run smoothly and at that point you are talking about 180HP to the wheels if you do a couple of hard runs on the street. It heat soaks fast and timing gets pulled. 92-93 is much better but still same issue, after a few hard runs performance does not stay consistent in the heat. E85 is much better and the best option, but has the trade offs of wrecking MPG. On the track, forget it. You are basically forced into E85 for for cooling efficiency. Then you need to consider aggressive oil and water cooling solutions like what Robi runs, and then meth injection. Innovate cannot nor can the support shops answer why the kit was not sold with intercooler. It's a secret and there is some contractual BS along with it. What it is a monster red flag. I have talked to 3 different shops and tuners now. They all agree, this kit needs an intercooler. You can **** around with meth, E85, etc to mask it but at the end of the day out of the box not very versatile. Quote:
The trans maybe the weak link, we just don't know yet. I will continue to send another sample after 10k miles to follow up. Quote:
The Innovate on 91 has and will be slower than a well tuned NA car. We have already seen it. Maybe not on the first run, but on the 2nd and 3rd etc. Quote:
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After 250 on all FI you need pump, injectors and possible clutch upgrades to be safe. The people who always cry about wanting more power clearly never spent too much time in the garage fixing things. Power is nothing without reliability unless you like fixing things and have unlimited budget. Quote:
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From what I've found it also depends heavily on how good of a tuner you have. |
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I just spend over two hours in a dyno room talking to Toni and watching tuning on Innovate kits. I have also talked to Innovate directly, and Jason from Nameless, and several other vendors and owners of the kit. There will be a video from the tuning day coming out with interviews sometime next week. There are not a lot of tuners who have experience with it.
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Watched this video when I woke up this morning. Very amazing video, well done, thank you very much for putting in the time and effort for the community!!!
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For reliability, I think you need to get rid of the factory catted exhaust manifold. You are probably pushing those manifold cats to their limit and when they fracture it could be ugly. Really hope you do another video. Youtube has a few videos of the '86 traveling thru scenic Europe and Mt. Fuji Japan. Yours skills with the camera are so good its a shame they all have that urban backdrop. An American version with a trip thru southern IL or Kentucky would be a great finale showing the car in its natural habitat.
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Minor miss on the tyre weight, you may find that you really didn't drop any weight on the wheels setup.
As for the twinscrew SC setup, I honestly have no idea why innovate went without, rushing too market definitely doesn't seem to be the reason. The rest of the world has had the IC setup for the last few months already. |
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But that's 6 months out at least.
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Tires were 24lbs a piece. We weighed and had discount tire weight before and after. Better?
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Anyways, almost a non-issue in the grand scheme of things in terms of searching for more grip. |
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Thanks man, have been sitting on sidelines with headers for a while, there are some good ones finally coming out, for now going to let others do the testing for me. We are going down south to NC in September to interview Ohlins Product Manager and do tour and Essex/AP racing. So we should have some nice footage from the Appalachians and Dragon Area.
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Final weight of stock wheel and RS3 Tire: 43.5lbs. (Per Wheel) Final weight of RPF1 wheel and RS3 Tire: 39.5lbs (Per Wheel) Total of 16lbs. Is that not a weight savings, did I somehow not add or account for something?
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