Trade in FRS to purchase Mustang EcoBoost or Camaro 2.0 Turbo

[Zaku]

I drove one and it's pretty nice, It just feels weird since I also drove a new 2016 SS camaro and then a 5.0 Mustang right afterwards. It's like the Eco boost is nice but something isn't there... I think james May would say the Fizzing

[fumanchu1]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Is yours paid for? If not then beware the slippery slope of trading in too soon. If there is a reason you want /need to change then all is cool but changing out of boredom can get costly.
If I was trading for one or the other right now I would go Mustang (and I hate mustangs) since it has a slight edge on the Camaro in my opinion.

1969 called and want their ideas on engines back.

Nah I agree with him on this one, not because the engine isn't competent(it is) but because you're buying a muscle car and a muscle car with a 4banger defeats the "muscle" aspect of it... plus have you heard the ecoboosts?? I've seen civics that sound less like lawnmowers.


That being said, if the engines were in anything other than a muscle car then my statement would be invalidated.

[Dark]

Originally Posted by Impureclient

This made me rethink that belief: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80015

Let me rephrase that. I will never buy a Mustang without V8 5.2l Flat plane crank that can rev up to 8000rpm.

[strat61caster]

If I wanted to build the fastest Mustang that could go around corners I'd take an ecoboost in a heartbeat, MAP seems to think they can build 700+ whp out of it and the stock block blew when they were pushing past 500 wheel:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=80015&page=11

Mustang GT curb weight: ~3720
Mustang Ecoboost curb weight: ~3532

200 lbs lighter and $3k cheaper? Not exactly the worst deal of the century there.

As for the OP, someone has to keep the dealership finance people in business I suppose.

[cdrazic93]

Its also to note that it was *actually* the block that failed at 500, either. "Messing with external throttle body injectors that failed to shut off on the dyno, causing a hydro lock which in turn threw a rod".

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=142

Very promising lil mustang.

[Rampage]

I would buy the Camaro 1SS. It is a totally different animal from the FR-S but it is a really good animal. The problem is that you should be able to buy one for around $35K but the dealers are still marking them up. The cheapest I have found is north of $38K and I refuse to pay a 10% mark-up. Maybe I will grab one used in a couple years.

[geezerbrzeezer]

You currently have a relatively rare car.

With the Camaro or the Mustang, you won't. As good as they may look, they're a dime a dozen on every block. Kinda sucks the exclusivity factor right out of the ownership equation/experience - any wannabe with a chunky wallet can strap one on.

In 1984 (and yes as a matter of fact, I am an old f**k - hence my username), I traded in my beloved '79 Z28 for an '85 Honda CRX after driving the Honda 'go kart' (curb weight around 1800 lbs) 1km, and never looked back.

The Mustang and Camaro will give you attractive, quasi muscle car sheet metal (modern Bullittish and Transoformerish iterations thereof at any rate), and whatever gob level of power you desire and/or can afford.

But the twins have been out for years now, and many people still don't know what the f**k they are.

Now that is some cool shit.

[R_E_L]

If you want a pony car but don't wanna go for the V8, I would scrap both those choices and get the new V6 camaro. It has the superior and lighter weight chassis @ 3,339 lbs compared to the 'stang (3532 lbs). A better stock engine that makes more power, and comparable torque to the turbos, with a great sound. Not to mention Chevy typically packs more features into the car. I wouldn't even look at the turbo models.

[FR-S.13]

Pony cars and the twins are very different animals intended for very different things; do your homework and be sure to test drive them all thoroughly. Nothing worse than regret if you make the wrong choice for yourself. Good luck!

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by geezerbrzeezer

You currently have a relatively rare car.

With the Camaro or the Mustang, you won't. As good as they may look, they're a dime a dozen on every block. Kinda sucks the exclusivity factor right out of the ownership equation/experience - any wannabe with a chunky wallet can strap one on.

In 1984 (and yes as a matter of fact, I am an old f**k - hence my username), I traded in my beloved '79 Z28 for an '85 Honda CRX after driving the Honda 'go kart' (curb weight around 1800 lbs) 1km, and never looked back.

The Mustang and Camaro will give you attractive, quasi muscle car sheet metal (modern Bullittish and Transoformerish iterations thereof at any rate), and whatever gob level of power you desire and/or can afford.

But the twins have been out for years now, and many people still don't know what the f**k they are.

Now that is some cool shit.

I actually disagree with this. I live in New York, i hang around the five boroughs, including upstate and Long Island. I have a few friends with current/last gen Mustangs and Camaros, they always get compliments, everywhere. Always. I never get a word about the FRS and its blue!

People love muscle cars, even when their a dime a doze. Just keep it shiny.

And white college girls love convertible Mustangs, that's just a fact of life.

[themadscientist]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Is yours paid for? If not then beware the slippery slope of trading in too soon. If there is a reason you want /need to change then all is cool but changing out of boredom can get costly.
If I was trading for one or the other right now I would go Mustang (and I hate mustangs) since it has a slight edge on the Camaro in my opinion.

1969 called and want their ideas on engines back.

That's funny. The Europeans never forgot and the Japanese just got wind of it.











That's not a 1969 Mustang even though it's trying really hard to look like one.
http://www.ford.com/cars/mustang/trim/gtfastback/

[soulreapersteve]

Originally Posted by dem00n

I actually disagree with this. I live in New York, i hang around the five boroughs, including upstate and Long Island. I have a few friends with current/last gen Mustangs and Camaros, they always get compliments, everywhere. Always. I never get a word about the FRS and its blue!

People love muscle cars, even when their a dime a doze. Just keep it shiny.

And white college girls love convertible Mustangs, that's just a fact of life.

Time to go rent a convertible mustang and cruise around the local university.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by themadscientist

That's funny. The Europeans never forgot and the Japanese just got wind of it.











That's not a 1969 Mustang even though it's trying really hard to look like one.
http://www.ford.com/cars/mustang/trim/gtfastback/

Who said anything about forgetting?
The point being that turboed 4s can now double the hp of old school V8s and the Mustang and Camaro are both gradually changing from big heavy beasts that needed V8s to simply move to lighter more nimble machines that can get along perfectly on a turboed 4. Not everybody needs to get a massive 8 just because "muscle car".

[themadscientist]

I like both. Both are exciting in different ways and certainly not "everybody" should necessarily want them, but if you want a "Muscle car" it has to have muscle.

My 2.0 RS Skyline had more performance that the Corvette of the same year and I got at least one chance to test it in the real world, the vette went out easily, but it was not, is not and never will be a "muscle car."

Boosted four banger.



Big V8



Either gets the job done, but they are not the same thing.