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Old 12-11-2013, 08:54 PM   #2745
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Is it possible to buy the AVO kit without the ECUtek? Id like to use the OFT instead. @AVOturboworld
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It is entirely possible to buy it without Ecutek, we don't insist on that. We just don't have any OFT basemaps available for the turbokit at this time.
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I posted my comment right after you guys posted something so you may have missed it, but would a manual boost controller be a beneficial item for this kit? I would be getting a BOV too. Thanks!
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I don't think you need to worry about a manual boost controller initially. It is something I would only look at after you've got the kit installed and have everything operating smoothly.
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I'm still debating between a MBC or an EBC.
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The reason I mentioned not installing the MBC on the initial install is really for a couple of key issues. The main reason is trouble shooting.

Installing any sort of FI to a non-FI car is going to introduce potential issues. We would all love to have a 100% trouble free no-issue install, but lets face it, there is often issues when even just installing a piece of exhaust. So with something more complicated like a FI kit, you want to concentrate first on getting the kit on and running properly. That way, if there is any problems, you know it is with something on only that area. When you install several different parts at the same time, when an issue does arise, you can (and frequently do) end up chasing your tail because you don't know which of those parts is the problem.

I'll admit, though, it's cheaper to get some things out of the way all in one package - if you are installing an FMIC, a radiator upgrade, and an oil cooler, you want to do that all at once while the bumper is off and everything is already apart. But then, it's fairly easy to guess which of those items is the problem area because they do different things.
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The reason I mentioned not installing the MBC on the initial install is really for a couple of key issues. The main reason is trouble shooting.

Installing any sort of FI to a non-FI car is going to introduce potential issues. We would all love to have a 100% trouble free no-issue install, but lets face it, there is often issues when even just installing a piece of exhaust. So with something more complicated like a FI kit, you want to concentrate first on getting the kit on and running properly. That way, if there is any problems, you know it is with something on only that area. When you install several different parts at the same time, when an issue does arise, you can (and frequently do) end up chasing your tail because you don't know which of those parts is the problem.

I'll admit, though, it's cheaper to get some things out of the way all in one package - if you are installing an FMIC, a radiator upgrade, and an oil cooler, you want to do that all at once while the bumper is off and everything is already apart. But then, it's fairly easy to guess which of those items is the problem area because they do different things.
Paul is completely correct here, I have tuned a few of these kits and having the standard package from AVO installed and dialed in perfectly is ideal first. From there then you can add in boost control through EcuTeK for more power and have it on switchable maps.

But make sure the kit is working as expected with the AVO tune or our tune. It will help in the long run and make you, the customer, a little happier to know it is working to the specs already defined.

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Stage 3 testing on the AVO Turboworld Japan BRZ

We've been hard at work here at AVO on a variety of projects, with possibly the biggest one right now being the Stage 3 upgrades for the AVO BRZ/FR-S turbocharger kit. Our Stage 1 turbocharger kit has been incredibly popular worldwide, and has made a lot of people very happy by bumping the power up dramatically, from 165whp to 260+whp. Yet some people want more, much more, and we've listened to their requests.

It would have been easy enough to just up the boost and get a few glory runs on a dyno, but we are far more committed to our customers long-term enjoyment than that. We wanted Stage 3 to be as reliable as possible, with all the high-quality engineering and attention to detail that has been a trademark of AVO for the last 40+ years.

To this end, we spent a considerable amount of time and testing on our fuel pump upgrade, as the car was already starting to reach the limits of the pump at 300whp, and we were planning to go much further than that. After much time and effort, we have now got a full bolt in, no fitment compromise fuel pump that does not require any re-wiring or dremelling. It clips right in to the assembly, and doesn't require you to have the fuel filter mashed up against the bottom of the pump housing. The standard wiring harness will clip right into it as well, and it doesn't require additional O-rings to seal up.



Matched up with that is our upgraded Port Injectors. These were also designed to fit to the BRZ/FR-S, with the longer "neck" on it so that they reach down into the intake system and spray properly, unlike some other "short" designs that merely let the gas puddle down. Put these together with the fuel pump, and we now had the fueling to push the engine further.

But why so much extra fuel? Because we upgraded the turbocharger as well! The Stage 3 turbocharger utilizes a new billet compressor wheel with a more efficient design. While the overall size of the turbocharger hasn't changed, the flow has improved dramatically enabling us to push it harder at higher boost levels. This allows up to bump up the peak horsepower available while keeping the impeccable low-end torque that makes this turbo kit such a pleasure to drive.



The final piece of the power puzzle is the complete 3" exhaust system that will come with this kit. We don't mean just from the cat-back, no, this exhaust is 3" from the turbo charger exhaust housing back. The turbo discharge pipe and crossover pipe have been re-designed to provide maximum flow from the turbo all the way back.



As part of the testing we recently put the Stage 3 kit through it's paces at the RevSpeed Super Battle Time Attack at Tsukuba Circuit. It went very well, with the car going roughly 1.5 seconds faster around the circuit on the exact same tires as earlier in the year. Power through the corners was very well controlled, and it was a rocketship exiting the corners and on the straights.



Immediately after the event we put the car on the dyno to see how it was doing at the race settings. Power was quite impressive, with 373whp on tap at 6400rpm, and a peak of 318ft/lbs of torque at 4800rpm. Even more exciting is how it was doing 290ft/lbs of torque from 3300rpm. This is a quick-responding turbo!

We are still undergoing testing, but expect to see this available soon from AVO!
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:35 PM   #2753
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Stage 3 testing on the AVO Turboworld Japan BRZ

We've been hard at work here at AVO on a variety of projects, with possibly the biggest one right now being the Stage 3 upgrades for the AVO BRZ/FR-S turbocharger kit. Our Stage 1 turbocharger kit has been incredibly popular worldwide, and has made a lot of people very happy by bumping the power up dramatically, from 165whp to 260+whp. Yet some people want more, much more, and we've listened to their requests.

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To this end, we spent a considerable amount of time and testing on our fuel pump upgrade, as the car was already starting to reach the limits of the pump at 300whp, and we were planning to go much further than that. After much time and effort, we have now got a full bolt in, no fitment compromise fuel pump that does not require any re-wiring or dremelling. It clips right in to the assembly, and doesn't require you to have the fuel filter mashed up against the bottom of the pump housing. The standard wiring harness will clip right into it as well, and it doesn't require additional O-rings to seal up.



Matched up with that is our upgraded Port Injectors. These were also designed to fit to the BRZ/FR-S, with the longer "neck" on it so that they reach down into the intake system and spray properly, unlike some other "short" designs that merely let the gas puddle down. Put these together with the fuel pump, and we now had the fueling to push the engine further.

But why so much extra fuel? Because we upgraded the turbocharger as well! The Stage 3 turbocharger utilizes a new billet compressor wheel with a more efficient design. While the overall size of the turbocharger hasn't changed, the flow has improved dramatically enabling us to push it harder at higher boost levels. This allows up to bump up the peak horsepower available while keeping the impeccable low-end torque that makes this turbo kit such a pleasure to drive.



The final piece of the power puzzle is the complete 3" exhaust system that will come with this kit. We don't mean just from the cat-back, no, this exhaust is 3" from the turbo charger exhaust housing back. The turbo discharge pipe and crossover pipe have been re-designed to provide maximum flow from the turbo all the way back.



As part of the testing we recently put the Stage 3 kit through it's paces at the RevSpeed Super Battle Time Attack at Tsukuba Circuit. It went very well, with the car going roughly 1.5 seconds faster around the circuit on the exact same tires as earlier in the year. Power through the corners was very well controlled, and it was a rocketship exiting the corners and on the straights.



Immediately after the event we put the car on the dyno to see how it was doing at the race settings. Power was quite impressive, with 373whp on tap at 6400rpm, and a peak of 318ft/lbs of torque at 4800rpm. Even more exciting is how it was doing 290ft/lbs of torque from 3300rpm. This is a quick-responding turbo!

We are still undergoing testing, but expect to see this available soon from AVO!
What octane gas was this on, and how much boost? Any ball park ideas on pricing? I'm guessing close to the 9k mark?
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That was on the race gas, 108 octane unleaded at 13psi of boost. We will be testing it on regular pump octanes and at higher boost levels on the race gas.

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Holy Cow! A 3" Overpipe? How on earth did that fit? Now this engine can REALLY breathe!
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Hey guys, I look to be ordering an AVO turbo kit right away here for my FRS and I am wondering if there is a flange fitting for a recirculating BOV on the stock Stg 1 charge pipe (to throttle body)?

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Edit looks like it does! found some pictures
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Holy Cow! A 3" Overpipe? How on earth did that fit? Now this engine can REALLY breathe!
It is tight, and I'd certainly suggest putting engine mounts in at the same time.
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It is tight, and I'd certainly suggest putting engine mounts in at the same time.

It's amazing how this can even fit? Awesome that improvements continue!!
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