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Old 10-24-2018, 02:49 PM   #113
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ICE 4 LIFE
I'm sure ICEs will be around for a long time. Maybe for the rest of your life, but they are going out in the long run. At this time, we need oil for so many products that it is kind of crazy that we are using the world's supply for vehicles. Eventually, ICEs will be so antiquated that only a few will drive them around on Sundays like people do with classic cars. Gas stations will be so rare, outlawed or unavailable that owning an ICE vehicle might be impossible, assuming the emission standard doesn't lead to an outright ban on them from existing anywhere other than a race track.

It may also get to a point where society sees ICEs as being rude kind of like loud, obnoxious ring tones or people talking loudly on bluetooth headsets were for phones. They may become rude for their emission pollution, noise pollution and dripping-fluids, ground pollution.
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Currently, I find Musk-worshippers to be rude for their smarmy, smug sanctimoniousness*.

So I guess they're ahead of the ICE pack after all!

* Irace - I'm not referring to you, but there are some people who believe that "Dear Elon" can do no wrong, and that anyone who disagrees is either part of the oil lobby, or a short selling bottomfeeder.
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In other news, Tesla made money. Finally.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohn.../#62db87993d79
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Old 10-24-2018, 07:51 PM   #117
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5% is not bad, but they've had profitable quarters before. Having worked for companies that played in those type of numbers I've seen a quarter be manipulated through cheap accounting tricks to be profitable. Hopefully its a trend.

I don't particularly care for their products (and its not because they are electric) but I do want them to succeed. They are pioneers, and I always like to see them make it.
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5% is not bad, but they've had profitable quarters before. Having worked for companies that played in those type of numbers I've seen a quarter be manipulated through cheap accounting tricks to be profitable. Hopefully its a trend.

I don't particularly care for their products (and its not because they are electric) but I do want them to succeed. They are pioneers, and I always like to see them make it.
Good point. Here's hoping it is a trend and they do succeed.

I don't agree with quite a bit of what Tesla does, but if nothing else, the Model 3 seems to have finally forced the more established manufacturers to step up on producing serious (not you, Leaf) competition. Which is never a bad thing.
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Soooo... Tesla Model 3 with Cup 2 tires and brake pads laps Streets of Willow in 1:21.4...... the same as a Cayman GT4 and 458 Italia

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesl...O0gDcMsX33G0Mc
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Soooo... Tesla Model 3 with Cup 2 tires and brake pads laps Streets of Willow in 1:21.4...... the same as a Cayman GT4 and 458 Italia
Love the results, the car is still ugly....
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Love the results, the car is still ugly....
It is subjective of course. Now that VW, Volvo and some other brands are going head deep into electric cars, there will be more options for those that donít care for Teslaís aesthetics. Aesthetics are probably the largest reason we have so many different car brands.
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5% is not bad, but they've had profitable quarters before. Having worked for companies that played in those type of numbers I've seen a quarter be manipulated through cheap accounting tricks to be profitable. Hopefully its a trend.

I don't particularly care for their products (and its not because they are electric) but I do want them to succeed. They are pioneers, and I always like to see them make it.
If Tesla survives through everything then they could be like Amazon, that is to say, they may have years in the red growing before exploding in revenue. And really, it looks like they are on track to do that. As a brand, they can murchandize any product as good as Nike, Apple, etc. They have as much brand loyalty as Apple too. Lastly, it is good to remember that Tesla is a technology company that builds different products related to batteries, which includes cars, Semiís, wall chargers, power stations, solar roofs, etc., and all these things will only go up in demand.
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Soooo... Tesla Model 3 with Cup 2 tires and brake pads laps Streets of Willow in 1:21.4...... the same as a Cayman GT4 and 458 Italia

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesl...O0gDcMsX33G0Mc

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Is this article fake news as well? Lol...
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Love the results, the car is still ugly....

I agree, the Tesla model 3 is one of the most bland looking cars, it has no character.
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Is this article fake news as well? Lol...
I'd definitely call it old news at least.

Can you get your Tesla with sport cup 2s in 245? No? So why bother tuning the esc and abs specifically for a tire nobody has on their Tesla? (Especially since it's gonna kill them real quick)

What tires does that Giulia come with?

That Ferrari comparison is a bit suspect... Driver makes all the difference.
https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willo...eets-of-willow

Anyway, let me know if you want to hear the parts I found impressive about the stunt.
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Soooo... Tesla Model 3 with Cup 2 tires and brake pads laps Streets of Willow in 1:21.4...... the same as a Cayman GT4 and 458 Italia

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesl...O0gDcMsX33G0Mc
Hum.... after reading that article this is the gist of it.
It took about 6 weeks and a lot of tuning sticky tires and better pads for a model 3 to achieve 1:21.4 lap time.

The Alfa Gulia did it right off the bat and keep the same lap times consistent right out of the box and did it 1.29 second slower

The '16 cayman gt4 and the '11 458 Italia (1:22.30) where all about 1 second slower than the '18 Model 3.

Hum.... did I read that right?

Sounds to me like the Alfa Gulia is the best bang for the buck.
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