the lexus version: your wish list

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

Audi! Audis look amazing, much better than BMW/Benz IMO. Although they have dismal reliability I hear.

Yeah I like Audis the best as well out of the German cars. That new RS3 looks very nice, even if it is pricey. While the Audis have a great Quattro system, they still suffer from understeer and being overweight.

[Archer256]

My problem with Audi is this -
you're design is nice but...WHY do all your cars look the same? And A5 is an A4 minus 2 doors, you see what i mean? There's nothing unique about getting an A5 or an A4 making them distinct from one another or any other car in the lineup. BMW has the same problem now.

[f1ver]

Audis are expensively overpriced, huge, heavy, and break down. and, i'm just gonna say it out loud: the sideblade on the R8's are stupid. other than that, yeah nice cars... i won't turn you down if you give me one
With my own money though, I'd rather get something like this, or the subaru or lexus version, anyway...

[Giccin]

Originally Posted by Archer256

My problem with Audi is this -
you're design is nice but...WHY do all your cars look the same? And A5 is an A4 minus 2 doors, you see what i mean? There's nothing unique about getting an A5 or an A4 making them distinct from one another or any other car in the lineup. BMW has the same problem now.

Originally Posted by f1ver

Audis are expensively overpriced, huge, heavy, and break down. and, i'm just gonna say it out loud: the sideblade on the R8's are stupid. other than that, yeah nice cars... i won't turn you down if you give me one
With my own money though, I'd rather get something like this, or the subaru or lexus version, anyway...

They are ugly... but they're fun to drive! Lol. I owned a 09 TTS. Was fun for the time being. I agree with looks though. :>

[serialk11r]

WHAT? UGLY? O_O
Audis all look the same...because the design is that badass!
A5 and TT are particularly nice, the backside is done so well!
Can't believe you don't like it

[Dark]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Yeah I like Audis the best as well out of the German cars. That new RS3 looks very nice, even if it is pricey. While the Audis have a great Quattro system, they still suffer from understeer and being overweight.

I only love with Stuttgart based Porsche and Munich based BMW.

[Matador]

Why would the Lexus version need to be a 4 door? Lexus IMO desperately needs a 2-seater coupe/roadster a la BMW Z4/Benz SLK/Audi TT.

Chop the top, pimp the interior and give it's own (Hopefully still beautiful) look. Turbo 4 for the base engine, supercharged 2GR for the F version. Keep it under 3000lbs n it's golden.

Make it happen Lexus. I think this is one Toyota where no one would complain if you shared it's genes.

p.s. Guys, The IS is based on the GS platform and most likely will continue to be. It is small enough as is, and it's not likely to get any smaller, plus Lexus needs to amortize costs for the GS platform, so you know.... GS, IS, next gen SC, Mk X, Crown as usual.

[cyde01]

It doesn't have to be a 4 door, I was just referring to those stupid best car rumors. If they lengthened the platform a bit, threw in a boxer 6 you'd have an sc300 revival, badge it a Toyota and you'd have a supra! This is just wild speculation at this point though.

[DRACHENV6]

I think that the IS (even the IS-F) series lacks the power to weight for drivers to take them seriously. I think Lexus should design lightweight/reliable/luxury sedans that are true competitors.

They need an M3 killer priced at 40k, and an M5 killer at 55k. Highly reliable cars (not boats on wheels-ls460) with numbers worthy of a flagship brand. Wishful thinking, but I think thats what itll take to achieve market dominance.

[Matador]

Originally Posted by cyde01

It doesn't have to be a 4 door, I was just referring to those stupid best car rumors. If they lengthened the platform a bit, threw in a boxer 6 you'd have an sc300 revival, badge it a Toyota and you'd have a supra! This is just wild speculation at this point though.

Not quite, IMO.

Originally Posted by DRACHENV6

I think that the IS (even the IS-F) series lacks the power to weight for drivers to take them seriously. I think Lexus should design lightweight/reliable/luxury sedans that are true competitors.

They need an M3 killer priced at 40k, and an M5 killer at 55k. Highly reliable cars (not boats on wheels-ls460) with numbers worthy of a flagship brand. Wishful thinking, but I think thats what itll take to achieve market dominance.

The GS F is coming, The IS F is a great 1st attempt. The prices you ask for are unrealistic. Lexus is recognized as a true premium brand and you can option an IS350 to close to $40k. No way you are gonna get a new IS F for that.

The LS460 is an excellent car for what it was intended for, and it would be stupid to try and make it a sports car (Forget that the Sport trim package is actually quite competent and drives as good as if not better than a BMW 750i).

Lexus is the #1 selling Luxury car marquee in America... for more than a decade... did you not get the memo?

p.s. FYI, most of Lexus cars are the lightest in their competitive segment. The IS350 when it debuted was also the most powerful as was the 2nd gen GS400.

the competition has upped their game, but I think in most (not all) cases, Lexus does quite well.

Anyway, back ot the topic at hand.

[xantonin]

I think it would be cool if they made a Lexus version with a hardtop convertible.

[DRACHENV6]

I understand what you are saying, and Im not knocking the lexus or the IS ( I fell in love with the ISF when it released). I believe that lexus is able to get away with lower performance standards because of brand loyalty from people like you and me. We replaced a ls400 with an ls460, and it was a huge disappointment, though the is250awd was ok. I think Lexus needs to up their innovation if they want to keep a loyal base.

[old greg]

Originally Posted by cyde01

It doesn't have to be a 4 door, I was just referring to those stupid best car rumors. If they lengthened the platform a bit, threw in a boxer 6 you'd have an sc300 revival, badge it a Toyota and you'd have a supra! This is just wild speculation at this point though.

They already made that, it's called a 2003 Subaru Legacy. Seriously people, there is no "FT86 platform". It's a chop-top, short wheelbase current generation Impreza, which is a chop-top, short wheelbase previous generation Legacy. It's a good platform for the FT because it saves Toyota a crap ton of design work, and the tooling already exists and is no longer being used. Both of these things reduce costs, enabling a lower selling price, and if the car isn't as refined as it could have been nobody will mind because hey, it's a sports car. But it is not up to the standard that people expect of a Lexus, nor to the standard that Toyota expects.

I just don't see it happening, not on the Legacy platform.

[Archer256]

Realistically Lexus will never base anything off the ft-86, they already get crap from ppl for being rebadged Toyota's (ignorant statement but nonetheless it is something a company has to be mindful about when designing cars) Not only would they share the ft-86 with scion/toyota but subaru as well and that is a BIG N.O.

SC will be revived but it's gunna be on Lexus's own terms. Only reason why ft-86 chassis would get streteched would be for IS, which is usually based on the GS. BUT at the same time if you think about it the IS is carving out it's own name - i mean it is considering the japanease 3 series and IS-F the M3, Lexus may decide to make IS it's own entity with some similar elements from GS